bow/arrow mercs

(Yoshimoto) #1

we all know how much we want a bow an arrow merc. but none of us have any idea how a merc like that would work.
well heres my idea:

name:marker, i guess???
role:recon/support

primary weapon- bow: deals about the same damage as an auto siper to the body, headshot would deal 70 damage or something like that

secondaries would be somehting like throwable knives and stuff.

q skill:
load up the next arrow with a marker bug. if you hit an enemy, the bug sticks to them, working like a very very short range heartbeat sensor while also doing 2 damage per second. it would mostly work as an annoying reminder that youre being tracked. if the enemy gets healed by any medic ability, the bug will die. you can also shoot the arrow to stick to a surface, and it would work as a half ranged heartbeat sensor.
(would be usefull to stick it to the enemy ev as they go).
e skill: bug detonation. detonate the tiny explosive charge in your bug to deal around 40 damage to everyone that is spotted by the censor. upon detonation, your tracker stops working.

post your thoughts on what a bow and arrow using merc shoould do

(gg2ez) #2

Hang on - I’m in the process of making one.

(ASTOUNDINGSHELL) #3

OH LOOK ANOTHER ARRO/BALLISTA MERC!
SAY HELLO TO MR.K-121
RATATATATTATTA!
good bye mr Bow!

(gg2ez) #4

[quote=“astoundingShellfish;89051”]OH LOOK ANOTHER ARRO/BALLISTA MERC!
SAY HELLO TO MR.K-121
RATATATATTATTA!
good bye mr Bow!
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@astoundingShellfish I’m going to guess from your response that you’re very loud. Perhaps consider that sometimes stealth and silence is better than just pointing your Assault Rifle at something and spraying them with bullets.

At first, I was very sceptical about Bows in an FPS, but since I’ve tried them out, they’re an excellent addition to my arsenal especially if I want a combination of high-stealth and high stopping power. A bow could be very useful for taking out enemies behind cover (using the arc of the arrow) only problem is that this merc isn’t stealthy enough to be an efficient recon-bowman.

(ASTOUNDINGSHELL) #5

@gg2ez Fucke yeah I am Loud! i aint a coward Recon hdding behdin all of his teammates potining my sights and pullignt he trigger every so often!.
I AM UP THERE AT THE FRONTS, FLLING EM UP WITH LEAD AND GRANADES!!

(gg2ez) #6

[quote=“astoundingShellfish;89109”]@gg2ez Fucke yeah I am Loud! i aint a coward Recon hdding behdin all of his teammates potining my sights and pullignt he trigger every so often!.
I AM UP THERE AT THE FRONTS, FLLING EM UP WITH LEAD AND GRANADES!![/quote]

@astoundingShellfish I bet you die alot. Only fools charge headfirst into battle without a strategy of winning. You think you’re front line material, there’s what I think, you’re just the meat that distracts the prey whilst I uncloak behind them and actually kill them.

If you think Recon classes are just mercs that hide behind their team like a useless Vasilli you’re wrong, as a Recon class main I have a very specific job to do and it’s much more important than looking them in the face, it’s being within the enemy team without distraction, planning different ways to kill each enemy one by one and when the time comes - I DO.

Don’t get me wrong, it’s really fun playing as an assault class and I love it but saying what you just did about Recon was just ridiculously closeminded and I really hope you can see that, I mean - Phantom doesn’t even carry a scope.

(ASTOUNDINGSHELL) #7

@gg2ez Well soemone gotta show the team to go do shit besides staying hiden in cover!
SOmeone gott push the enemy back! and all these recons aint gonna be helping me much, o so many pahntoms bit the dust facing agaisnt my lmg, you be as sneaky and afraid as you want to, but unlike you A aint afraid to take a shot for the team, and kill msyelf with whatever gets clsoe enought.
If the team aint gonna push! I will push by myself if necessary!
dont care about K/D only about victory.

and i never said i charge headfirst, i push back the enemy, i fight on the frontlines, i keep the enemy hidden under cover.
there shouldnt be mroe thna 1 sniper epr team, much less on offense, so many time iv had to push the EV on voertime by myself, cause the rest fo the team was to worried about theor K/D

(gg2ez) #8

[quote=“astoundingShellfish;89131”]@gg2ez Well soemone gotta show the team to go do shit besides staying hiden in cover!
SOmeone gott push the enemy back! and all these recons aint gonna be helping me much, o so many pahntoms bit the dust facing agaisnt my lmg, you be as sneaky and afraid as you want to, but unlike you A aint afraid to take a shot for the team, and kill msyelf with whatever gets clsoe enought.
If the team aint gonna push! I will push by myself if necessary!
dont care about K/D only about victory.

and i never said i charge headfirst, i push back the enemy, i fight on the frontlines, i keep the enemy hidden under cover.
there shouldnt be mroe thna 1 sniper epr team, much less on offense, so many time iv had to push the EV on voertime by myself, cause the rest fo the team was to worried about theor K/D
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I seriously doubt the fact that you, a single Fragger, could push down an entire team. But sure, you can lead the team, I’ll be the one actually scouting ahead and relaying information to you to keep you as fresh and ready for combat as possible. Right, not helping much.

Newsflash kiddo: different people play different classes differently, just because all the Recons you saw were pussies that couldn’t even engage in combat, don’t think all of them are like that. @astoundingShellfish

(ASTOUNDINGSHELL) #9

@gg2ez i never got mad as phantom, if anything i prefer phantom over all recons (i actually have phantom) but most fo the reocns are either vassili ro red eye, hanging back makign my job harder to do, msot of the recosn jsut assasinate rearely the ever give out intel

(Yoshimoto) #10

[quote=“astoundingShellfish;89142”]@gg2ez i never got mad as phantom, if anything i prefer phantom over all recons (i actually have phantom) but most fo the reocns are either vassili ro red eye, hanging back makign my job harder to do, msot of the recosn jsut assasinate rearely the ever give out intel
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m8 do you even strategy?
you’re really embarrasing yourself over here

(gg2ez) #11

[quote=“Yoshimoto;89311”][quote=“astoundingShellfish;89142”]@gg2ez i never got mad as phantom, if anything i prefer phantom over all recons (i actually have phantom) but most fo the reocns are either vassili ro red eye, hanging back makign my job harder to do, msot of the recosn jsut assasinate rearely the ever give out intel
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m8 do you even strategy?
you’re really embarrasing yourself over here[/quote]

Exactly. The fact the he thinks all Recons do is hide is embarrassing. I can’t tell you how many times I’ve carried a team as Phantom. @Yoshimoto

(ASTOUNDINGSHELL) #12

@Yoshimot @gg2ez I was refering to sniper recons in genera not Phantom he is more of a scour recon.
As far strategy goes, i cook and lob granades intot eh crowds then finish off with whatvere my primary is, usually the k-121, or the m4 sine i jsut got a golden card with that gun.
on certian situations i do jump into the enemy to either make a distraction or make a kamikaze Nade if the enemy got very strong defense.
And i cant tell you how many times iv had a horrible time becuase only me and another guy decided to PTFO and it was jsut fragger and sawbonez with 6 snipers fighting each other to get a target.
Well maybe is cause iv had a bad expierence with recon SNIPERS that i dislike em.
I dont really cosndier them broken or anything, the only Merc(s) i hate are ether Proxy or Nader.

(gg2ez) #13

[quote=“astoundingShellfish;89370”]@Yoshimot @gg2ez I was refering to sniper recons in genera not Phantom he is more of a scour recon.
As far strategy goes, i cook and lob granades intot eh crowds then finish off with whatvere my primary is, usually the k-121, or the m4 sine i jsut got a golden card with that gun.
on certian situations i do jump into the enemy to either make a distraction or make a kamikaze Nade if the enemy got very strong defense.
And i cant tell you how many times iv had a horrible time becuase only me and another guy decided to PTFO and it was jsut fragger and sawbonez with 6 snipers fighting each other to get a target.
Well maybe is cause iv had a bad expierence with recon SNIPERS that i dislike em.
I dont really cosndier them broken or anything, the only Merc(s) i hate are ether Proxy or Nader.
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I thought you said you liked front line mercs, why do you hate Nader? Nader is my go to merc when I’m on assault (my squad consists of Phantom, Nader, and Phoenix), she’s great for corner checks and smoking out rooms and she can even two-grenade kill everyone but Rhino. Ontop of that she had 5 grenades that are really bouncy. I can understand why you hate Proxy though, so annoying to deal with. @astoundingShellfish

(ASTOUNDINGSHELL) #14

@gg2ez I know i jsut find her to easy to play, maybe its cuase vie got 3 years of demoman training in tf2, i also hate Martyr doom is an instakill.

(gg2ez) #15

[quote=“astoundingShellfish;89415”]@gg2ez I know i jsut find her to easy to play, maybe its cuase vie got 3 years of demoman training in tf2, i also hate Martyr doom is an instakill.
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Martyrdom isn’t an instakill, it does the same amount of damage as one of Fragger’s Nades. Technically it’s only an instakill of you’re below a certain health level and within (a very small) range.