Body shots with snipers OP

(extraordinaryEmperor) #1

The base damage for the sniper rifles is way too high to justify in a game like Dirty Bomb where every other gun does like 10-20 damage. Instead, I think the bolt actions should do 50-55 while headshots do triple damage instead. This keeps the hs damage consistent while not making 2 shot body kills viable for every merc except rhino.

(Lamb) #2

2 shot body kills is pretty common in shooter games…

(Yak) #3

That makes no sense. Not only are sniper bullets much, much larger than smg/assault rifle rounds, they also fly a LOT faster. Doing more damage makes sense, it happens like that in real life as well.

(omegaskorpion) #4

in real life 1 sniper shot can kill with more efficently than 15 pistol bullets.

(affableTricycle) #5

in real life 1 sniper shot can kill with more efficently than 15 pistol bullets.

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Dirty Bomb is such a realistic game, isn’t it? Practically a milsim.

Seriously though, don’t decrease damage, increase chamber time.

(watsyurdeal) #6

The ttk on most of the rifles is over a full second, body shots taking longer to kill than headshots unless you’re intentionally trying to fight a sniper at long range.

(KangaJoo) #7

Vasilli is already one of the least competitive mercs in the game with guys like linkzr even giving up on using him. Why do you think he needs even more of a nerf? Maybe try positioning yourself better when you know there’s a sniper on the other team so you’re not caught so far out in the open that the enemy has enough time to body shot you twice before you can get to cover.

(extraordinaryEmperor) #8

Vasilli is supposed to be a sharpshooter. Aiming for the head. He can basically just body shot then switch to a pistol and pretty much get a confirm kill on anyone but Fragger and Rhino

(Yak) #9

Snipers actually aim for the chest, it’s easier to hit and will still kill you very fast. The head is too small a target.

(extraordinaryEmperor) #10

This is a game. Stop bringing real life into it… Maybe rezes should take several hours as you perform surgery on someone to remove the bullets from their body?

(Reddeadcap) #11

@extraordinaryEmperor

Which rifle are you talking about, exactly? Lets talk hypothetically that you’re playing as any of the characters and are body-shotted or head-shotted by one of them without any other damage coming towards you.

The PDP-70 does 45 damage, 9 shots, its rate of fire is slower than most weapons except for other sniper rifles and shotguns at the price low accuracy and losing accuracy quickly with every shot, making it work more like a scope battle rifle than a sniper rifle, its headshot would be enough to kill Aura/Sparks (80 HP), Proxy/Kira (90 HP).

The MoA-SNPR-1 Doesn’t even have half of rate of fire of the PDP-70, 1 third of its reload speed, 3 less shots, but makes it up thanks to a 30 more damage, which would leave all of the previously mentioned characters with 5 and 15 health and would instantly kill anyone that isn’t Thunder (160 HP) or Rhino (200 HP) in a single headshot.

The FEL-IX has exactly 79 damage (Before 80), 1 less shot than the moA, a slower reload, a slower rate of fire, would be enough to drop Aura/Sparks down to 1 HP, Proxy/Kira to 11 and would headshot kill everyone except for Rhino and Thunder in a single hit, that’s the main reason why I believe it needs its 1 damage back since its pretty much for lack of a better word a crappy MoA-SNPR-1 with 4 more damage, but with everything else worse.

That said, Headshotting is pretty much impossible unless you’re talking about someone else who doesn’t understand the fact this game is about mobility for the most part.

TL;DR: The damage is fine.

(Ghosthree3) #12

And yet, it has the highest DPS of any weapon except for the Minigun, Dreiss, BR-16 and STARK AR. It’s also much more accurate than the Dreiss, so you can almost take Dreiss out of that list.

(Reddeadcap) #13

And yet, it has the highest DPS of any weapon except for the Minigun, Dreiss, BR-16 and STARK AR. It’s also much more accurate than the Dreiss, so you can almost take Dreiss out of that list.[/quote]
The dreiss makes up for it by being more accurate when shot from the hip than the PDP and it having more ammo, and DPS is a really questionable statistic since it would be expecting someone to hit everytime with every shot or pellet from a shotgun.

(XavienX) #14

Bro, in most FPS, you can one shot people with a sniper in the body. In DB, the mercs’ heads are smaller and by hitting headshots is the only way you can insta gib people. And keep in mind that the characters in this game move fast also.

(extraordinaryEmperor) #15

Bro, in most FPS I don’t need 15 shots to down someone with a subby. Bro, in most FPS i don’t need 5hs from a pistol to kill someone.

So because ‘hs’ are hard, therefore let’s make bodyshotting OP. If you can’t hs with vasilli, you shouldn’t be using vasilli then.

(redhotDetour) #16

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In real life i can kill 15 people with 15 pistoll bullets. I would say that is more effective than 1 sniper shot.

(Mayple) #17

[quote=“extraordinaryEmperor;45790”]Bro, in most FPS I don’t need 15 shots to down someone with a subby. Bro, in most FPS i don’t need 5hs from a pistol to kill someone.

So because ‘hs’ are hard, therefore let’s make bodyshotting OP. If you can’t hs with vasilli, you shouldn’t be using vasilli then.[/quote]

This is not true at all. I play Vasilli main and there are times when going for body shots make more sense. When my team engages the other team in a firefight, its easier to hit a body shot to down the enemy player. Going for the headshot is overkill and just increases the chance of missing which then makes me useless as a sniper.

Its not just about getting a headshot either, its about picking off the important mercs such as the healers or enemy snipers that your team can’t engage as effectively/efficiently.