Binding fire to mousewheel down makes the BR-16 nuts.

(Harlot) #1

I posted these videos on the subreddit but I figured I’d share them here. You can see the difference between firing the BR-16 via left mouse click: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GjwASjX4xo&feature=youtu.be

And BR-16 fired with mousewheeldown and scrolling: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMIlbO9NNrM&feature=youtu.be

Now my next question is has anyone done something similar via mouse macros? My G502 has software where I could set a side button to press and release my left click every 5 milliseconds, basically recreating this without needing to use the wheel. Does anybody with a spare Steam and a newer Logitech wanna try? I’m curious whether it’s flagged.

(Faraleth) #2

Hmm, seems the BR-16 may need some added spread with sustained fire if this becomes common practice. However, it’s hard to really tell from the video how much the increased fire-rate affects the spread, so I might be wrong… :stuck_out_tongue:

Anyhow, good find. One thing I would say be careful of with any mouse macro’s is:

[quote=“MissMurder;10760”][list=1]
[] Cheat Engine
[] “Injector” type programs
[] Sandboxie
[] Most Macro Programs and Autoclickers
[/list][/quote]

This is the list of programs/addons which run the risk of being picked up by the anti-cheat and may result in a permanent ban. As far as I am aware, even for “testing purposes”, I would not encourage using them, because a ban is a permanent thing - regardless of excuse.

EDIT: To clarify, I didn’t mean the key binding was a macro - that is perfectly acceptable! I meant a mouse macro to automatically rotate your mouse wheel at a constant spin (like the logitech ones the OP is referring to) would possibly be considered a macro and be picked up. :slight_smile:

(Sinee) #3

https://sureasimbreathingnoceiling.files.wordpress.com/2015/03/funny-gif-steve-carell-freaking-out.gif

Shhhh! Fuck!

(neverplayseriou) #4

Always makes me sad seeing that even in games people need to have unfair advantages over other people :confused:

(Ardez1) #5

afaik it isn’t a macro, just a rebind from within the game. Looks neat, but it might get patched :slight_smile: Thanks for sharing.

(D'@athi) #6

Mhm, probably no flagging, as they are only checking, afaik, for running suspicious programs, and not for constantly-timed (with rnd-functions on it still useless) keypresses. Even Blizzard took a few years to do so.

But as you got a video of yourself using that cheat on an official server, and even promoting it together with a manual, in this official forums, let’s see, if they stand-up to their “no-tolerance-policy” beeing promoted in the past.

(FilterDecay) #7

is the mouse wheel considered a autoclicker? Makes sense but if they allow the bind in the menu it would get weird yeah?

(Harlot) #8

[quote=“D’@athi;83493”]Mhm, probably no flagging, as they are only checking, afaik, for running suspicious programs, and not for constantly-timed (with rnd-functions on it still useless) keypresses. Even Blizzard took a few years to do so.

But as you got a video of yourself using that cheat on an official server, and even promoting it together with a manual, in this official forums, let’s see, if they stand-up to their “no-tolerance-policy” beeing promoted in the past.[/quote]

Yea, it’s not a cheat. I literally rebinded primary fire to mousewheeldown in the game’s settings. None of this was macro’d. But thanks for your continued lack of intelligence in the community.

(FilterDecay) #9

[quote=“D’@athi;83493”]Mhm, probably no flagging, as they are only checking, afaik, for running suspicious programs, and not for constantly-timed (with rnd-functions on it still useless) keypresses. Even Blizzard took a few years to do so.

But as you got a video of yourself using that cheat on an official server, and even promoting it together with a manual, in this official forums, let’s see, if they stand-up to their “no-tolerance-policy” beeing promoted in the past.[/quote]

using the mouse wheel for mouse1 goes way back to cs 1.6 and probably beyond that.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=grSqXCQ7b5M

(Harlot) #10

[quote=“Faraleth;83487”]Hmm, seems the BR-16 may need some added spread with sustained fire if this becomes common practice. However, it’s hard to really tell from the video how much the increased fire-rate affects the spread, so I might be wrong… :stuck_out_tongue:

Anyhow, good find. One thing I would say be careful of with any mouse macro’s is:

[quote=“MissMurder;10760”][list=1]
[] Cheat Engine
[] “Injector” type programs
[] Sandboxie
[] Most Macro Programs and Autoclickers
[/list][/quote]

This is the list of programs/addons which run the risk of being picked up by the anti-cheat and may result in a permanent ban. As far as I am aware, even for “testing purposes”, I would not encourage using them, because a ban is a permanent thing - regardless of excuse.[/quote]

It depends. It may not detect my Logitech software (which I have running at all times in the background) but it may detect a macro that presses mouse click every 5 ms perfectly while the button is held down, which is why I don’t want to test it on my actual account.

(Harlot) #11

[quote=“FilterDecay;83498”][quote=“D’@athi;83493”]Mhm, probably no flagging, as they are only checking, afaik, for running suspicious programs, and not for constantly-timed (with rnd-functions on it still useless) keypresses. Even Blizzard took a few years to do so.

But as you got a video of yourself using that cheat on an official server, and even promoting it together with a manual, in this official forums, let’s see, if they stand-up to their “no-tolerance-policy” beeing promoted in the past.[/quote]

using the mouse wheel for mouse1 goes way back to cs 1.6 and probably beyond that.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=grSqXCQ7b5M[/quote]

He literally has zero knowledge on any subject he speaks about. Nevermind him.

(JesseKomm) #12

That is the standard “Try Hard” mentality; using every single little advantage, like macros, or a superior firing method for semi-auto or burst weapons(Such as that in this thread) to be able to defeat your opponent more efficiently. It makes me admire console gamers in a sense because they do not have such freedom to be able to gain those advantages as we do, and I’m stubborn in that no matter how bad it gets I refuse to use such methods as these.

For some people the game is simply all about winning, they don’t care who they hurt along the way, and I personally do not feel that is what online gaming is about. It’s about a fair fight, and the intensity that ensues with a close match, and having fun with people, whether strangers or friends, despite winning or losing.

(Litego) #13

Nothing wrong with binding fire to mouse scroll. Using a macro however is probably not the wisest thing, though I doubt they’d catch you.

(D'@athi) #14

Yeah using the console is no cheat, even if you know, teleporting yourself shouldn’t be possible, or throwing ammo into a turret, giving you a million xp/game shouldn’t also be possible, but still people did it.
But ok, probbaly you shouldn’t take brains for givin these days.
Sry but this kind of anti-recoil together with a manual how to do it, sry.
We all saw, the devs aren’t to familiar with fps and hacks nowadays, but this still this is shouldn’t be an excuse nor a license to print cheats imo, sry.

PS: We all know every little kid will do it from now on, until at least the patch after the next one, don’t we, so thx. Think.

(Harlot) #15

[quote=“Faraleth;83487”]Hmm, seems the BR-16 may need some added spread with sustained fire if this becomes common practice. However, it’s hard to really tell from the video how much the increased fire-rate affects the spread, so I might be wrong… :stuck_out_tongue:

Anyhow, good find. One thing I would say be careful of with any mouse macro’s is:

[quote=“MissMurder;10760”][list=1]
[] Cheat Engine
[] “Injector” type programs
[] Sandboxie
[] Most Macro Programs and Autoclickers
[/list][/quote]

This is the list of programs/addons which run the risk of being picked up by the anti-cheat and may result in a permanent ban. As far as I am aware, even for “testing purposes”, I would not encourage using them, because a ban is a permanent thing - regardless of excuse.[/quote]

The spread is still minimal. I used it in game for a bit and was destroying Fraggers at mid-range. TTK is definitely a lot faster. A better fix would just not allow you to bind fire to mousewheel.

That is the standard “Try Hard” mentality; using every single little advantage, like macros, or a superior firing method for semi-auto or burst weapons(Such as that in this thread) to be able to defeat your opponent more efficiently. It makes me admire console gamers in a sense because they do not have such freedom to be able to gain those advantages as we do, and I’m stubborn in that no matter how bad it gets I refuse to use such methods as these.

For some people the game is simply all about winning, they don’t care who they hurt along the way, and I personally do not feel that is what online gaming is about. It’s about a fair fight, and the intensity that ensues with a close match, and having fun with people, whether strangers or friends, despite winning or losing.[/quote]

You can buy controllers with macro functions. And everybody gets aim assist on consoles. It’s less skill-dependent.

And I don’t use this as I’m too programmed to use my mousewheel for weapon switching. But I figured I’d make it public and see if somebody wanted to test it via macros.

[quote=“D’@athi;83505”]Yeah using the console is no cheat, even if you know, teleporting yourself shouldn’t be possible, or throwing ammo into a turret, giving you a million xp/game shouldn’t also be possible, but still people did it.
But ok, probbaly you shouldn’t take brains for givin these days.
Sry but this kind of anti-recoil together with a manual how to do it, sry.
We all saw, the devs aren’t to familiar with fps and hacks nowadays, but this still this is shouldn’t be an excuse nor a license to print cheats imo, sry.

PS: We all know every little kid will do it from now on, until at least the patch after the next one, don’t we, so thx. Think.[/quote]

You should be banned for your crimes against the English language. Throw in how stupid the majority of your thoughts are and your accusations and I really don’t understand how you’re still here.

This isn’t a hack. It isn’t a cheat. You don’t need to use the console and you aren’t abusing a bug. All you’re doing is rebinding the fire function via the menu to eliminate human error in your fire rate. Should it be fixed? Maybe. But you coming in here and accusing me of hacking, cheating, etc and saying I should be banned is definitely an attempt to shame. Mods?

(neverplayseriou) #16

@JesseKomm lots of console gamers pay over 100 euro’s for a custom controller which makes jumping while shooting easier (mostly for cod).

There’s even tutorials on which button you should use for shooting faster as in r1 or r2 (playstation) to increase fire rate with a semi auto.

And if I would see anyone shoot this fast in game I would just report him for cheating rofl :stuck_out_tongue:

(Faraleth) #17

I’ve updated my original post to make it clear I was NOT talking about the actual keybinding when referring to the “macro”. I was talking about the macro the logitech mouse that the OP was referring to, which will spin the mouse wheel at a constant rate. :slight_smile:

(JesseKomm) #18

That is the standard “Try Hard” mentality; using every single little advantage, like macros, or a superior firing method for semi-auto or burst weapons(Such as that in this thread) to be able to defeat your opponent more efficiently. It makes me admire console gamers in a sense because they do not have such freedom to be able to gain those advantages as we do, and I’m stubborn in that no matter how bad it gets I refuse to use such methods as these.

For some people the game is simply all about winning, they don’t care who they hurt along the way, and I personally do not feel that is what online gaming is about. It’s about a fair fight, and the intensity that ensues with a close match, and having fun with people, whether strangers or friends, despite winning or losing.[/quote]

You can buy controllers with macro functions. And everybody gets aim assist on consoles. It’s less skill-dependent.

And I don’t use this as I’m too programmed to use my mousewheel for weapon switching. But I figured I’d make it public and see if somebody wanted to test it via macros.[/quote]
I know those controllers exist, though they are much more rare than what you would see in PC gaming, and as well not all console games provide aim-assist. I was not insinuating that you were a “try hard” as I am well aware that these videos were more-or-less a comparative test… but still making this public(Though I feel anyone remotely aware of it would have picked it up from other games)is not a very good idea especially since you’re pretty much asking for people to test macros in comparison to this discovery.

(Harlot) #19

That is the standard “Try Hard” mentality; using every single little advantage, like macros, or a superior firing method for semi-auto or burst weapons(Such as that in this thread) to be able to defeat your opponent more efficiently. It makes me admire console gamers in a sense because they do not have such freedom to be able to gain those advantages as we do, and I’m stubborn in that no matter how bad it gets I refuse to use such methods as these.

For some people the game is simply all about winning, they don’t care who they hurt along the way, and I personally do not feel that is what online gaming is about. It’s about a fair fight, and the intensity that ensues with a close match, and having fun with people, whether strangers or friends, despite winning or losing.[/quote]

You can buy controllers with macro functions. And everybody gets aim assist on consoles. It’s less skill-dependent.

And I don’t use this as I’m too programmed to use my mousewheel for weapon switching. But I figured I’d make it public and see if somebody wanted to test it via macros.[/quote]
I know those controllers exist, though they are much more rare than what you would see in PC gaming, and as well not all console games provide aim-assist. I was not insinuating that you were a “try hard” as I am well aware that these videos were more-or-less a comparative test… but still making this public(Though I feel anyone remotely aware of it would have picked it up from other games)is not a very good idea especially since you’re pretty much asking for people to test macros in comparison to this discovery.
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It’s important to understand how these things work. Right now, using your wheel is kind of cumbersome and not for everybody. If you can macro it and get away with it, it’s a big advantage in a competitive environment. Like somebody said, they would accuse you of cheating or hacking if they ran into this in-game.

(FilterDecay) #20

well those burst fire weapons may need some balance. With something like the deagle you better be aiming at the feet if you want to hit the head with that rapid fire.