Before you spend a single cent on this game, read this

(watsyurdeal) #1

So after watching this video from Angry Joe, and seeing the comments section and how many people bashed the game for it’s business model, but not the actual gameplay and quality of it…yea, rant time incoming.

First, let’s explain what free to play means folks, free to play is JUST that, free to play and try out. Meaning instead of getting some cut down demo, you get to play the game in it’s entirety, and see how it plays from the get go. You get to play it and try to get invested in it before you make any actual purchases.

You CAN spend money, but the reality is you DON’T have to. First off, after the most recent update, Bronze cards offer everything Silver and up do, the only difference is the skins. Second, yes, you only get two mercs to start out with, but Splash is actually allowing you to try out 3 other mercs at a time during the free rotation, so you can try out a merc before you buy it or spend your hard earned credits on it.

So with that said, let’s say you start off as a fresh player, you start out with Skyhammer and Aura, and learn how to play the game with just those characters, ok? By the time you get to level 6, you should have amassed enough credits to get one merc, and by the time you reach 10 you can get another, with just credits. So, try out the mercs in the free rotation, see what two you like, then buy them. Then, get bronze cards for them, Aura, and Skyhammer that you like and suit your playstyle. And from there, you can keep playing, keep racking up credits and keep improving.

And that, is how you take advantage of the free to play, and ignore the whole “pay to win” bullshit. Because here’s the thing, loadout cards don’t mean jack. Money != skill, so get your Dirty Bomb chops up before you start investing in this game. Because otherwise, yea, you will be wasting your money, on a game you don’t even play or take seriously in the first fucking place.

Do I like the business model Nexon has imposed on this game? No, BUT, I don’t think it’s entirely to blame on them if you’re so willing to spend your money that you can’t see the fine print. The game offers everything you NEED to enjoy it, WANT however is different. And if you want to spend your money like that, then go ahead, but seriously, play the game first people. That’s really what Splash Damage wants you to do anyhow.

(eucalyptusSwordfish) #2

I don’t understand why some people get so vehemently righteous when defending video games.

The fact of the matter is that the business model is anti-consumer, and regardless of how good the base game is, shouldn’t be acceptable. Spend your money if you love the game, it doesn’t really matter in the long run, but at least ask yourself if your money is really best used in opening cases and buying mercs instead of literally anything else.

I don’t think “but it’s free to try out” really matters when getting even just the base, no loadout mercs (which are objectively worse than ones with cards) costs more than the price of a typical AAA release that could easily have as much content as this game.

With so many other good games on the market, personally I can’t stomach the thought of spending dozens of hours or dozens of dollars just to get a single merc with the loadout card I actually want because I value both my time and money more than I value this game.

But like I said, do whatever you want with your money. Just don’t complain that you’re getting shafted if you do.

(Ghosthree3) #3

As far as I’m aware you can specifically buy any merc/loadout you want for both in-game currency and real money. There is no need to spend money playing roulette and thus no reason to complain about it.

Last I checked the ‘loadout card you want’ is $3.50 or in-game currency, I don’t know what the price of the merc is but I’m pretty sure it doesn’t add up to ‘dozens of dollars’.

I do disagree with the F2P model but I understand that it works and is the most profitable avenue for non-AAA games these days. I miss the days of just buying a game upfront and being able to play the whole thing with no followup paywalls except for expansion packs which actually added huge content.

(avidCow) #4

That was painful to watch. I couldn’t make it all the way through. He’s doing a disservice to his viewers by being such a bitch. Why didn’t he just buy bronze skyhammer cards? Buy a merc perhaps?

(eucalyptusSwordfish) #5

[quote=“Ghosthree3;25831”]As far as I’m aware you can specifically buy any merc/loadout you want for both in-game currency and real money. There is no need to spend money playing roulette and thus no reason to complain about it.

Last I checked the ‘loadout card you want’ is $3.50 or in-game currency, I don’t know what the price of the merc is but I’m pretty sure it doesn’t add up to ‘dozens of dollars’.[/quote]

That’s not too bad, I suppose.

With the conversion to CAD a $10 merc is $12, so only a single dozen.

And I also understand that it works, but it’s just a scummy thing to do. There’s better implementations for a F2P model that still make the developers money. Nexon has a history of really terrible business models, so I wouldn’t hold my breath on it getting much better any time soon - although I’ve been proven wrong before (as with the cards thing).

(Aazhyd) #6

I have been playing the game for less than 3 weeks now and I already bought 2 mercs (Vassili and Proxy) and a bronze loadout card without spending any real money. I got enough ingame money to buy another bronze loadout card. If I do, I have 4 ideal bronze loadouts for all my 4 mercs (the other 2 I got through the game itself). I also have several good bronze loadouts for other mercs I may or may not buy in the future.

The way it is going now, I can buy another merc in maybe a week or so. Haven’t spend a single dime yet, and I’m definitely not a star player.

P2W? Certainly not.

(srswizard) #7

A tip to new players:
Don’t go wasting your credits on buying cases, you’ll get plenty of them, from just playing the game, like 1 at the end of every 2nd or 3rd match, and sometimes more often than that.
You’re often also rewarded a case for leveling up.

Your credits are best saved for unlocking new mercs, and trading up trash cards (leads and irons), that you get from cases, up to bronze tier; the tier where every possible loadout is available.
Silver, gold and cobalt tiers only differ from bronze, cosmetically.

It’s good to support the game, by buying mercs and elite cases, with real money, but it’s not going to make you more powerful than other players.

Edit. I guess I kind of TL;DR’d OP. Oh well.

(enigmaticObelisk) #8

Srsly…that guys is a complete idiot. I was subscribed to him for years until I noticed that he is a fanboy that gets too emotional too quickly to review video games in a reliable fashion. His viewers are like minded.

Videos like this are the reason why some companies refuse to make interviews with this guy. And I would’nt myself.

The Store in this game is completely fine. With trading in lower tears to get better cards you don’t need any money to put down if you don’t want the premium skins. The Free2Play system is totally fair in my view.

I really want to sue this guy for the damage he just done to a perfectly fine game that plays really well.

(elegantRoyalty) #9

yep thats a hack job rage for clicks video , i think we should all comment on his video , but please remain polite and simply point out where his wrong, if you go in all aggro it will just allow him to dodge the issue and focus on that. just point out you can buy the best loadouts for free how fast you get enough credits to get several etc

(god1) #10

People who take idiots like AngryJoe seriously bring nothing of value into ANY online community and I’m actually happy to see them not playing.

(Ghosthree3) #11

Idiots take idiots seriously, and idiots are still playercount.

(Amerika) #12

His video has over 200k views on YT and many of those will now have a pretty bad opinion of DB overall because he couldn’t take the time to research a little bit and took Delrith’s word on everything (which was mostly incorrect…and he’s the guy you hear but don’t see in the vid). Luckily he’s catching a lot of flack for it on Twitter and on YT to the point where he has even changed the videos description. However, he’s still monetizing a video that is based on ignorance at best and lies at worst.

He claims DB is Corporate Commander but he’s making money off of a lie and doesn’t really care so he is actually Corporate Commander.

(RaubRitter) #13

Having been BURNED by paying for several Beta games (coughDAYZcough), etc. I love the polish of Dirty Bomb in Beta. I will gladly donate if they just add a donation button.

I have not paid for a merc or case yet! I have played and earned enough credits to buy several mercs and have accumulated a large amount of cases just from playing. Lead all the way to silver. I have 2 Bronze mercs!

So the Pay to Win BS is just that BS.

Fantastic game. THANKS Nexon!

(Eddie) #14

‘‘So after watching this video from Angry Joe,’’ That’s when i stopped reading… hes a tard with no information about the games

(watsyurdeal) #15

No lie it’s starting to feel that way, so much misinformation from his vids it’s insane.

Good thing folks like Markiplier, Frankie, and Sharkhead actually gave a good review of the game.

(BlazinFox) #16

But he went against everything he said… So you thinks it’ll be fine to read it. Right?

(sixten) #17

This guy is terrible.

(DMaster2) #18

I’m actually happy with the current economy system. While it’s a bit on the tedious side to farm credits you can actually get the merc you need without having to spend a single cent. Also the loadout (bronze) being able to be purchased for credits is HUGE. In my 2 months since i installed the game i purchased Vassili (main), Sparks and Rhino (along with Fragger, but i got him with a steam code) along with their loadout of my choice (the rhino one with the n2o i was lucky enough to craft it). It will take a long time before i own everyone but that’s understandable. Whoever say this game is pay2win never played other “free” fps online. I changed quite a few games in the last two years but i’m finally happy with this one, as long as they don’t change the current system.

(expessiveGene) #19

Honestly i love angry joe but he was being a fucking idiot in that video he was wrong about everything

(noupperlobeman) #20

Angry Joe and his fans are wrong and illogical?

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