Base Camping


(blis645) #1

i played a 5v2 and after a couple of minutes just began a furious Base Camping…In Brink game, there were 2 Huge undestuctible turrets to avoid this annoying behaviour…any chance to have 'em here on dirty bomb?
Thnx!


(B_Montiel) #2

You just explained it yourself. Strong base camping issues happen when teams are totally unbalanced by numbers or by skill. If donkeys refuse to balance and nobody joins in, just leave the server, it’s not worth staying in. Besides, I’m not very found of spawn protection for this particular reason. It somehow makes a big sign upon spawns “try it at your own risk” which will in a certain way promote going spawnkill. There’s definitely no fun going spawnkill right now and this would add some for people who do not care about the overall experience.


(coruscate) #3

You just explained it yourself. Strong base camping issues happen when teams are totally unbalanced by numbers or by skill. If donkeys refuse to balance and nobody joins in, just leave the server, it’s not worth staying in. Besides, I’m not very found of spawn protection for this particular reason. It somehow makes a big sign upon spawns “try it at your own risk” which will in a certain way promote going spawnkill. There’s definitely no fun going spawnkill right now and this would add some for people who do not care about the overall experience.
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If a fair numbered team gets u into your own spawn it doesnt matter what guns u got there as NPC that enlarges the spawn itself but there will always be an area that enemies can stay and kill you from.

When it is because of skill why should anyone try to stop this behaviour it is just domination over the enemy play it doesnt matter WHERE it happens if you forbid good players to stay near spawn they will slaughter you on other choke points. its just the most forward and convenient choke point.


(B_Montiel) #4

[quote=“Coruscate;24080”]
If a fair numbered team gets u into your own spawn it doesnt matter what guns u got there as NPC that enlarges the spawn itself but there will always be an area that enemies can stay and kill you from.

When it is because of skill why should anyone try to stop this behaviour it is just domination over the enemy play it doesnt matter WHERE it happens if you forbid good players to stay near spawn they will slaughter you on other choke points. its just the most forward and convenient choke point.[/quote]

I agree with you. I just meant, on pub games, people should an ounce of pity and don’t go there if they can’t balance teams. Especially right now when there’s a incredible ammount of newcomers. Even if they will inevitably get slaughter further down the map, it allows people to breathe a little.


(D.C.V.) #5

They can just make it so that you stop being invincible only if you leave your spawn(instead of a short timer). It would be the best spawnkilling protection(why let turrets do your job? :wink: ).
However, If the enemy team is significantly better, then you can’t do much anyways. If they don’t kill you near your spawn, they’ll kill you everywhere else.

P.S. Don’t bother with 2v5. Just leave the server like 99% of the players do. Even if you wait for more teammates to join, they will be too late as the enemy team would have taken the best positions by then and they will keep killing everyone.


(coruscate) #6

[quote=“D.C.V.;24090”]They can just make it so that you stop being invincible only if you leave your spawn(instead of a short timer). It would be the best spawnkilling protection(why let turrets do your job? :wink: ).
However, If the enemy team is significantly better, then you can’t do much anyways. If they don’t kill you near your spawn, they’ll kill you everywhere else.

P.S. Don’t bother with 2v5. Just leave the server like 99% of the players do. Even if you wait for more teammates to join, they will be too late as the enemy team would have taken the best positions by then and they will keep killing everyone.[/quote]

This is the same thing as having turret it doesnt FIX the problem it just WORKS around the issue. If you are getting dominated it is weather balance of people or skill. If u FORBID them to do what they can (kill you whereever you are) they will have to wait on another choke point and you are dead aswell. That doesnt change the issue of having people DOMINATING you which is no problem at all but giving people “God mode” in spawn is something majorly dumb. why would you make the SPAWN something untouchable for enemys if they can they can and they will. if they cant they probably try anyway and fail. problem solved. it is a competitive shooter if u are better you will always win.


(D.C.V.) #7

OP’s rant was about spawnkilling, not dominating. If they are better than you, they can kill you anywhere(and they should), but you should at least be completely safe in your spawn. With turrets/invincibility the better team will still win but the difference would be that the losers won’t die seconds after spawning.

I’ve been in both situations. I’ve gotten spawnkilled and I’ve spawncamped people(not inside their spawn, but very close to it). It’s sweet when you’re the one who does the killing, but it’s wrong. The better team should focus on defending/completing the objectives instead of staying right outside the spawn farming kills.


(coruscate) #8

OP’s rant was about spawnkilling, not dominating. If they are better than you, they can kill you anywhere(and they should), but you should at least be completely safe in your spawn. With turrets/invincibility the better team will still win but the difference would be that the losers won’t die seconds after spawning.

I’ve been in both situations. I’ve gotten spawnkilled and I’ve spawncamped people(not inside their spawn, but very close to it). It’s sweet when you’re the one who does the killing, but it’s wrong. The better team should focus on defending/completing the objectives instead of staying right outside the spawn farming kills.[/quote]

We just stomped on some level 5s in MM and they just cried at us for 15 minutes for spawn camping them. it is SOO boring to do the killing but it is way more boring to wait for them to come to you. if my team can hold them in spawn why the heck shouldnt I? Should I care for my oponent having a bad time in Match Making? No i wanna show the system that we are capable of fullholding them with incredible KDs and scores because we are WAY out of their league and not frigging get matched with them more frequently because we all have a good time yaii. In pub i would understand it to a certain degree and accept it. I wouldnt spawn camp them with a stacked team. But in Matchmaking to be called out a “noob who should learn the game” is just ridiculous.


(unrealTanker) #9

i agree whit corus