Ban Smurfing Forever


(Dieu-Sama) #1

Matching against top EU player, 3 of them are smurfing.

I DON’T CARE THE PLAYERBASE IS ABYSSIMAL AND COBALT/ELITE OPRATIVE TAKE 30+ MINS TO FIND A MATCH, as a Gold Recruit at best, I DON’T WANT TO TAG AGAINST A WHOLE TEAM OF THEM

Do something ffs. Ban smurfing account from the game. I don’t know what or how but JUST DO SOMETHING


(Teflon Love) #2

If SD started a war against smurfing, I bet it will be as successful as the war against terror and the war against drugs.


(neverplayseriou) #3

or just implement ping limits into ranked, rip preemoose/duppi/player287 :smiley:


(Sorotia) #4

Trouble is…banning a smurf would be just as effective as banning a hacker…all they need to do is roll a new account.


(Dieu-Sama) #5

@Sorotia said:
Trouble is…banning a smurf would be just as effective as banning a hacker…all they need to do is roll a new account.

It’s up to SD to come with a sensible but efficient solution ffs²


(Mc1412013) #6

See this is what i hate ranked. It pins high skill players together on one team puts low skilled on another team. One thing i noticed is i almost always get put on the team that has the lower scores at the end of game. Im going on 3,350 ranked points for this season right now i have earned 535 since trinket came out. I should have been at least 6k right now. Im loosing about 50% of the matches compaired to 30% last season. I bought a booster 2 weeks ago and am regreting it as i think i only earned 100 credits with it as i seem to loose most of the matches any more. After 10 ranked matches i had one lest to get to 2nd to last silver now i cant get out of borderline bronse


(Press E) #7

Ranking is more or less meaningless though. With ranked as unbalanced as it is, it’s easy for players to be carried and such.

Besides, smurfing would be a cobalt making a new account so they can play with unranked players. These people haven’t, and they also haven’t intentionally joined a low level lobby, the terrible matchmaking system just happened to put them there.
You should be complaining about the system in general, and how you still get punished for just happening to get an unfair match, not the people who just happened to be paired with you through no fault of their own.


(M4st0d0n) #8

Building an alt account is still its fair share of efforts, grinding for the mercs and the loadouts. SD could just ban them and make some examples, it’s not as easy as getting another email. Has been done in other games where matchmaker was abused.

It’s a vicious circle, the more the smurfs, the less high tier matches available, the longer it takes, the more the smurfs.


(Szakalot) #9

smurfing is the ultimate admission of cowardice.

hide little smurfs hide, under your stinky mushrooms


(Dieu-Sama) #10

@STARRYSOCK said:
Ranking is more or less meaningless though. With ranked as unbalanced as it is, it’s easy for players to be carried and such.

Besides, smurfing would be a cobalt making a new account so they can play with unranked players. These people haven’t, and they also haven’t intentionally joined a low level lobby, the terrible matchmaking system just happened to put them there.
You should be complaining about the system in general, and how you still get punished for just happening to get an unfair match, not the people who just happened to be paired with you through no fault of their own.

No, they don’t smurf to play with unranked players, they smurf (or now smurfed) to find a match quicker by having a lower rank. Which is unfair for everybody else than other cobalt/elite operative, which is FUCKING SHIT because the ranked is already fucking broken


(Dawnlazy) #11

More like “ban finding games forever”.


(Dieu-Sama) #12

@Dawnlazy said:
More like “ban finding games forever”.

That’s SD problem, not mine. My only concern is to find relatively balanced game, not stupid shit stomp like this


(AlbinMatt) #13

@Dieu-Sama said:

@Dawnlazy said:
More like “ban finding games forever”.

That’s SD problem, not mine. My only concern is to find relatively balanced game, not stupid @$!# stomp like this

One of the main reasons to make discussion threads is to discuss. We already have a whole bunch of complaints down in Bug Reports.

I’m no better than the average population (mid Bronze to Lower Silver), so finding smurfs are gonna be less likely for me, but it’s the vets with Unranked status that terrifies us. No, it’s not an “early season issue”, people are still trickling in from inactivity/straight up smurfing, and when they are the top tier Cobalt folks, the lower end of the ranked players are facing some massive comp stompers. SD, next season, maybe let people stay in their rank, or make different"Unranked" ranks for Silver-Bronze and Gold-Cobalt.

Removing smurfs is a nightmare and is indeed nigh on impossible because

@Sorotia said:
Trouble is…banning a smurf would be just as effective as banning a hacker…all they need to do is roll a new account.

I’ve suggested a partial solution for the “legitimate inactive players”, as for smurfs, we could have it so that your DB account is tied to your forum account. They already have the one account/person policy here. It is a radical stance, and may or may not disturb privacy, but that’s the only way I can think of. Of course this doesn’t stop the smurfs that throw games, just to have fun comp stomping the lower ranks.


(Nail) #14

@AlbinMatt said:

They already have the one+account/person policy here. It is a radical stance, and may or may not disturb privacy, but that’s the only way I can think of.

an idea, but not everyone who plays has an account here, I would guess there’s way more just on reddit. Banning smurfs is impossible, restricting ranked smurfing might be doable but I personally don’t know how. I do know it’s possible to have several unrelated Steam accounts though, so banning would be impossible


(Sorotia) #15

@Dieu-Sama said:

@Sorotia said:
Trouble is…banning a smurf would be just as effective as banning a hacker…all they need to do is roll a new account.

It’s up to SD to come with a sensible but efficient solution ffs²

If you’re such a genius then share how to do it?

You ban accounts…they can make a new one…they ban IP addys…they can fake a different one.

There isn’t a whole lot of options on banning people on free to play games…unless you want them to start charging a subscription?


(ragnak) #16

Premades shouldnt be allowed in ranked, otherwise it will look like that all the time. Most of the current balance issues that you see in ranked is because of premades.

Even if you assume that this “skill boost” works like it should (which i doubt seeing games like the one in this thread), it would still be unfair for solo players. If the premade you have in the team is bad (it happens), you as a solo player, will be punished because your team MMR will be a lot higher so you end up playing against better players, so if said premade cant keep up you are pretty much fucked. If 3 cobalt players premade it will never find them a balanced game unless there is another high level premade in a que, etc.

The best thing is that you wont even get more progression from winning those matches because overall team MMR wont be far off.

DB do not have the player base to support premades in ranked, SD and a lot people need to realize that it will stay bad as long as premades are allowed.


(Melinder) #17

@Dieu-Sama said:
I DON’T CARE THE PLAYERBASE IS ABYSSIMAL AND COBALT/ELITE OPRATIVE TAKE 30+ MINS TO FIND A MATCH,

I think you mean 4+ hours.


(Dieu-Sama) #18

@Melinder said:

@Dieu-Sama said:
I DON’T CARE THE PLAYERBASE IS ABYSSIMAL AND COBALT/ELITE OPRATIVE TAKE 30+ MINS TO FIND A MATCH,

I think you mean 4+ hours.

4+ hours is technically included in 30**+** mins

@Sorotia said:

@Dieu-Sama said:

@Sorotia said:
Trouble is…banning a smurf would be just as effective as banning a hacker…all they need to do is roll a new account.

It’s up to SD to come with a sensible but efficient solution ffs²

If you’re such a genius then share how to do it?

You ban accounts…they can make a new one…they ban IP addys…they can fake a different one.

There isn’t a whole lot of options on banning people on free to play games…unless you want them to start charging a subscription?

Subscription, no . . . having a minimal amount of paid game on the steam account to access some of DB’s features, including of course ranked, maybe . . .


(GatoCommodore) #19

@Dieu-Sama said:

@Melinder said:

@Dieu-Sama said:
I DON’T CARE THE PLAYERBASE IS ABYSSIMAL AND COBALT/ELITE OPRATIVE TAKE 30+ MINS TO FIND A MATCH,

I think you mean 4+ hours.

4+ hours is technically included in 30**+** mins

@Sorotia said:

@Dieu-Sama said:

@Sorotia said:
Trouble is…banning a smurf would be just as effective as banning a hacker…all they need to do is roll a new account.

It’s up to SD to come with a sensible but efficient solution ffs²

If you’re such a genius then share how to do it?

You ban accounts…they can make a new one…they ban IP addys…they can fake a different one.

There isn’t a whole lot of options on banning people on free to play games…unless you want them to start charging a subscription?

Subscription, no . . . having a minimal amount of paid game on the steam account to access some of DB’s features, including of course ranked, maybe . . .

maybe Ranked could be moved to DLC and you have to pay certain amount to play ranked
its a bad idea if you ask me

*edit:
its not a bad idea if you ask me


(Dieu-Sama) #20

That’s why I said “Subscription, no”