Balances to sniper rifles

(AirborneVolley) #1

Sniper rifles are not OP as in one hitting people after performing a heashot, that’s not really a problem for me. My problem is that i get headshot from point blank range while the enemy isn’t even scoping. It’s ridiculous when you try to flank a vassili from PB range and he just turns around and instantly kills you.

At the moment, the bullet flies pretty close to the direction of the crosshair when you shoot noscope with a sniper rifle, causing it to almost always hit you in PB range. I think it would be more fair if you shoot without scoping the sniper rifle, the bullet should shoot totally uncontrollable. You shouldn’t be able to predict where it will go to. I wonder if there are other people who agree with me.

(Samniss_Arandeen) #2

Wait, that’s a thing? Granted, I don’t go flanking Vassilis that much, but usually they bodyshot with hipfire or go for their secondary.

(AirborneVolley) #3

It just seems kinda unfair to me how the noscoped shots can hit too easily.

(Eox) #4

You either found one very lucky guy, one very skilled Vaseline (or a potential cheater).

I rarely get headshoted when I go flank Vassilis, so maybe that guy actually earned his shots.

(DMaster2) #5

That’s either skill or pure luck, and you have to deal with both. You have no idea how hard is to headshot with hipfire with the sniper rifle. You are lucky if the shot actually hit your target.

(DMaster2) #6

Then why don’t you try hipfiring with the sniper rifles so you see by yourself how “easy” it is?

(AirborneVolley) #7

In fact is it easy and I really dislike it, I actually hit 80% of the time when I try it. Just seems unfair to me.

(neverplayseriou) #8

Lol how about a video in which you show that…

(DMaster2) #9

AHAHAHAHAH that’s funny mate. Prove it or it’s BS.
Protip: If it was possible to have that percentage, or even remotely close to 30-40% devs would’ve already did something on the matter. So don’t post blatant BS just because people countered your flawed and salty argument

(AirborneVolley) #10

You could start with replying helpful instead of acting arrogant. Don’t expect me to make vids just so that I get the correct argument, i’m not like that.

(DMaster2) #11

Dude people already told you you are full of bs, so please stop this before the topic get closed by the mods.

(AirborneVolley) #12

In fact it’s you who should watch your mouth, all I see are unclean words tbh.

(Amerika) #13

Bullets come out in a huge spread when not scoped and in a completely random spot. That’s just how the game works. Just go fire at a wall and take a look. I play Vassili a fair amount and at a fairly high level and no-scopes aren’t even in the gameplan since it’s pretty much always better to get out your mp400 than to attempt such a low percentage shot. Your bullet isn’t even very accurate if you let the scope animation come up enough to show the scope.

I understand that it’s annoying to die to a sniper rifle in CQC but it does happen sometimes…but it’s almost entirely random unless you were in their face. And if you were in their face then you didn’t do a very good job moving to avoid the shot or simply killing them.

Seriously, go fire a Moa, FEL IX or PDP at a wall and only the PDP sort of has a chance to “no scope” and even it is bad at it.

(AirborneVolley) #14

I noticed the spread when I fired at a wall as you suggested to say @Amerika. Yet you can try to use the rifle as a melee weapon which happens against me a few times a day. It’s annoying but I’ll have to live with it.

(Amerika) #15

When I notice that a Vassili hasn’t switched weapons and still has that giant ass sniper rifle out I just do a long jump which will completely screw their chances of hitting a random no scope or a scoped shot. You then proceed to mow them down as they take some random low percentage shot or spend time switching to a more appropriate weapon.

Movement lets you beat out snipers that haven’t switched to a machine pistol pretty easily. Here is me making sure that I do not take a typical route of running right at a Vassili player who knows I’m coming. Notice how I cut towards the wall (with knife out to get a 20% speed boost) to cut off his angle since he’ll be moving slower than me. Then I do a wall jump to change my direction making him have to swing and to ensure that my head doesn’t pop into his scopes line of sight. This causes him to panic and completely miss and letting me easily gun him down. You can do similar things with a Vassili that just tries to no-scope or quick scope you and their chances of hitting you go DRASTICALLY down. Same goes for good Sparks players that use the Revivr to snipe.

It may not look like much when viewed but it’s massive in regards to winning a fight like that.

(Vampwood) #16

There is a direct relationship in how you approach and move to the persons accuracy, unless the player is exceptional which is pretty rare you can do lots of things to kill their chances of hitting. Learning that is a skill that will help you kill snipers and instead of asking for nerfs, ask yourself what you can do you to avoid being hit by it. Close range low deflection shots are incredibly easy for a good player and if you come at them on a corner without some planning they’ll hit you every time even if you surprise them.

Heres some rough numbers for accuracy vs movement. Against most pubs I have something like 70+% accuracy with MOA/Revivr. Against Amerika I have 35~%.

(AirborneVolley) #17

That was indeed a nice jump to avoid getting hit there @Amerika. Perhaps I’ll try to make more use of walls to make sure I won’t get hit. I did notice he hit you after they respawned, but you finished him off easily.