every time I play I realize that this scale does not have the least cordenation.
instead of separating the team equally or losing it. it is not happening what I see in this balance the following.
the strongest “with more experience and playing time” on one side and the weaker “new in the game and with less experience and less time” on the other team.
with will play, if the developers themselves do not fix it at once.
for me I see the following. this balance has no equilibrium nor does it do so proportionally.
Balance of ranked match this is a grid injustice.
guerraPE
(guerraPE)
#1
Mc1412013
(Mc1412013)
#2
I get alot of those lopsided ranks. I think sd said it uses more than rank to determin teams, but i dont buy it.
GatoCommodore
(GatoCommodore)
#3
@Mc1412013 said:
I get alot of those lopsided ranks. I think sd said it uses more than rank to determin teams, but i dont buy it.
ive had something similar with OP pic in steam community and reddit and this forum a while back
my name is on a screenshot with a guy said “Why my team is all unranked except me?”
what he didnt say is he wins the match, and the 4 unranked guys are me and my friends who just started playing ranked because most of my friends just finished their test in Uni.
its really funny how there are people go on such a way just to sperg out some lies in the internet, im not saying you or OP is lying but you get my point.
Xenithos
(Xenithos)
#4
Just to point out, the ranks shown at the end of the matches also include movements of the AFTERMATH of the match. Meaning winners may gain a rank on average, and losers lose one. With that disparity AND unmatched people, you get something interesting.
Just putting that out there since it’s my experience and what I’ve learned.
emjot
(emjot)
#5
The main problem now are parties.
I’m Gold Recruit, but parties are matched against stronger enemies. So if Matchmaking will give me 3xBronze (party) we will be playing against silver specialist+. This is BS.
There is literally no gain from them being in party if all of 3 are just new/bad/have no idea how they should play.
Example:
Won game because enemies got party, and overall we were higher in rank (avg)
And this is perfect example, party in enemy team, we won, that match was like on public games:
If they want to match parties against stronger enemies then, they should apply it only to party 4x/5x.
Too bad I don’t have a match in recent matches when we were facing some 4x party clan-made. Ez win.
Artyrim
(Artyrim)
#7
Don’t blame the system ,blame the people
For me is quite balanced ,at least of 90% of my matches had balance.
I was on my over 10 loses streak and finally yestarday I won a match. Yet I don’t blame the balance.
There are many factors
Team play,team work,no communication, laggers, timing ,camping as attackers ,rushing as defenders, the wrong usage of mercs and so …
As well the problem is the stupid people.
A team without medic is not ok
A team with 1 medic is fine
A team with 2 medics is perfect
A team with 3 or more medics is bad if can’t kill or do objectives
Same for engineers,airstrickers
An indoor skyhammer/arty/kira without a great aim? Useless
Attaking with 1 Rhino and 2 Auras(same place…) and just camping as attackers is a JOKE,won’t do a shit
People that trying to do range fights with their fuckin Remburger(of that is its name) is just retarded
A Vassili without aim just camping as attacker? Or a phantom that do kills time by time but just hides most of time is USELESS
The balance is fine ,just need a little final touch. I can show you many ss with a good balance
RakuNinjacu
(RakuNinjacu)
#8
Hi guys, i want to start by telling you the rank system is a piece of shit, no offense, and the teams are very unbalanced, for an example, ( in my case ofc ) i want to say that every match im top fragger, got at least 50 frags, and 9 out of 10 matches i lose, why?? because all the time i got some noobs in my team, they dont shoot the guy whos planting, they let them deliver and they just look at them, i dont get any revives, we dont have engis in our team, its fuking awful , seriously, ranked matches are a fuking nightmares, i’ve played party with some mates, they are gold, and im as good as they are, and let me tell you my rank is fuking silver, at least it was now im bronze after a few consecutive loses ofc. so gg DB , ur doing a good job at ranked matches, nice teams… i like this game because i played ET , but ranked is very bad, why dont you make our ranks by individual??? why i have to play with inferior players? every match? if i play good, give me a higher rank, why my rank depends on what the team does??
emjot
(emjot)
#9
Yeah, I feel you man.
It matches you as individual but then it scores you as a team. Kinda stupid.
If there was a clan-ranked games, then I get it, clan goes down.
B_Montiel
(B_Montiel)
#11
@Artyrim said:
Here one of few real unbalanced matches,it was a massacre&spam free
They also deserve some games in the matchmaking system. They don’t have opponents with the same level so the system put them against you. They had certainly waited a long time before getting in game. You’re the poor victim. Can’t do much about that honestly.
That said, I consider there should be a maximum gap between the lowest and the higher player in a game, both teams considered. And, in some way, I consider Bronze should not be allowed to party with anything higher than silvers (and the opposite also comes along), set unranked aside (That’s the purpose, as long as you win, they’ll put you against stronger opponents).
Artyrim
(Artyrim)
#12
@B_Montiel said:
@Artyrim said:
Here one of few real unbalanced matches,it was a massacre&spam free
They also deserve some games in the matchmaking system. They don’t have opponents with the same level so the system put them against you. They had certainly waited a long time before getting in game. You’re the poor victim. Can’t do much about that honestly.
For me they can wait even all day, I’m a fuckin solo and they are a stacked skilled team( the enemy team had over 10k hours together omg). Btw I waited just 2 min to find that match
neverplayseriou
(neverplayseriou)
#13
@B_Montiel said:
@Artyrim said:
Here one of few real unbalanced matches,it was a massacre&spam free
They also deserve some games in the matchmaking system. They don’t have opponents with the same level so the system put them against you. They had certainly waited a long time before getting in game. You’re the poor victim. Can’t do much about that honestly.
That said, I consider there should be a maximum gap between the lowest and the higher player in a game, both teams considered. And, in some way, I consider Bronze should not be allowed to party with anything higher than silvers (and the opposite also comes along), set unranked aside (That’s the purpose, as long as you win, they’ll put you against stronger opponents).
Why should a 4 man stack deserve a game, they can just solo if they want games…
B_Montiel
(B_Montiel)
#14
@Artyrim said:
@B_Montiel said:
@Artyrim said:
Here one of few real unbalanced matches,it was a massacre&spam free
They also deserve some games in the matchmaking system. They don’t have opponents with the same level so the system put them against you. They had certainly waited a long time before getting in game. You’re the poor victim. Can’t do much about that honestly.
For me they can wait even all day, I’m a @$!# solo and they are a stacked skilled team( the enemy team had over 10k hours together omg). Btw I waited just 2 min to find that match
Well, that’s the whole issue with a ranked system with not enough people to fill the gaps… That’s what you end up with.
To bounce to your earlier comment (I wanted to edit my earlier post), as long as people still don’t understand there are mandatory team composition and behavior to have in ranked, it’s still going to be a massive nightmare for most of the players. Even with long time players, I’ve seen numerous situations where the engineer suddenly switch to some other class at the worst moment possible, or the other way round people stacking engineer with no medics and combat at all, people playing Vassili not even capable of hitting body reliably…
Currently, I start to consider that ranking should be slightly more based on your personal performance. But that’d be incredibly hard to build, as it’ll have to account for actual good medics or engineers who commited a lot thus having terrible K/Ds, etc.
@neverplayseriou said:
@B_Montiel said:
@Artyrim said:
Here one of few real unbalanced matches,it was a massacre&spam free
They also deserve some games in the matchmaking system. They don’t have opponents with the same level so the system put them against you. They had certainly waited a long time before getting in game. You’re the poor victim. Can’t do much about that honestly.
That said, I consider there should be a maximum gap between the lowest and the higher player in a game, both teams considered. And, in some way, I consider Bronze should not be allowed to party with anything higher than silvers (and the opposite also comes along), set unranked aside (That’s the purpose, as long as you win, they’ll put you against stronger opponents).
Why should a 4 man stack deserve a game, they can just solo if they want games…
I clearly don’t know if it’d improve their search duration tbh. And everyone should be put on par, for pure equity reasons.