are you tracking the new players coming in?

[Protekt1]

i dont understand this logic. the current map pool is horrendous, and makes it a meatgrind. at least 5v5 there’s room for error when playing with alpha vets, but in 8v8, its a cluster, backrage spamfest. no room to move, or even figure out what you’re supposed to do. I personally cant even stand playing for more than 20 mins at a time on this current patch, i can’t imagine what new players are going through

To be fair the backrage has really been toned down with the map changes. If you get backraged on trainyard it is kinda your own team’s fault.

I agree 100% that 5v5 or even 6v6 plays out much better with these map sizes.

They’ll need bigger maps for 8v8 to work out well, and they’ll have to design them well enough so the fighting is much more spread out than it ever has been in any map I’ve tested since joining in March.

[Humate]

i dont understand this logic. the current map pool is horrendous, and makes it a meatgrind. at least 5v5 there’s room for error when playing with alpha vets, but in 8v8, its a cluster, backrage spamfest. no room to move, or even figure out what you’re supposed to do. I personally cant even stand playing for more than 20 mins at a time on this current patch, i can’t imagine what new players are going through

I think you understand slightly better than you make out.
However if you dont, I apologise as I tend to not over-exaggerate points to make a point.

[Leinahtan]

I quit trying to play because every time I try to load the game, the Nexon loader loads up, glitches out, says I don’t have the game installed until I force shut it down, reload it back up a few times, and then it patches and says its now installed. But wait! It also says I should play MapleStory every time too while trying to play Extraction/Dirty…

That Nexon partnership was the deathknell for this game. Every time I try to play it, I get reminded before it loads of the invasive and crazy things that loader does to the point where I don’t want to deal with it.

[shaftz0r]

[QUOTE=Humate;485533]I think you understand slightly better than you make out.
However if you dont, I apologise as I tend to not over-exaggerate points to make a point.[/QUOTE]

i think you misunderstand. im arguing from the perspective of new players coming in with no backround on games like this, not my own experience

[Humate]

I’m sure newcomers will be sure to point out if its an issue or not.

[shaftz0r]

I’m sure newcomers will be sure to point out if its an issue or not.

they… clearly have… the one, sometimes 2 full servers out of a thousand plus keys tells the entire story. not sure why you’re trying to argue valid points without giving any yourself. New players get SLAUGHTERED in 8v8 servers and rage out. ive seen it happen too many times to count, whereas when it’s 5v5, 6v6, they learn where to go, how to move, and get supported by better players

[Humate]

Im not arguing at all. I think its marvelous that you are thinking of them.

[BomBaKlaK]

they… clearly have… the one, sometimes 2 full servers out of a thousand plus keys tells the entire story. not sure why you’re trying to argue valid points without giving any yourself. New players get SLAUGHTERED in 8v8 servers and rage out. ive seen it happen too many times to count, whereas when it’s 5v5, 6v6, they learn where to go, how to move, and get supported by better players

Like you said thousands keys and maximum 1, or maybe 2 servers are running sometimes … look like there is something really wrong. Pub play on Extraction is for the moment a super big slaughter, and meat-grind fest, due to the horrible design and tiny scale of the maps.

No pub = No money = Dead game

[spookify]

[QUOTE=BomBaKlaK;485551]Like you said thousands keys and maximum 1, or maybe 2 servers are running sometimes … look like there is something really wrong. Pub play on Extraction is for the moment a super big slaughter, and meat-grind fest, due to the horrible design and tiny scale of the maps.

No pub = No money = Dead game[/QUOTE]

And its not even a fun meat grinder! I am all for raging faces but the shooting really sucks right now. If we say we like something or it feels right it gets nerfed! “O boy this game feels amazing” SD - Well we can fit that haha! I have an idea lets make medic useless and have no defined team roles in a team based game. LT’s and soldiers should be the beasts that lead kills so lets give them 150 HP and a spray and pray gun with 150 rounds and nerf everyone’s spread so not one can hit them. If a medic does decide to go up against them lets nerf their med packs so they are useless…

[Anti]

Closing thread, it’s off topic now and we’ve read this Medic feedback from you already Spookify. We don’t need another thread on this topic or the others mentioned, let’s keep the focus on those topics in their respective threads.