Are you a decent map creator, but need a good idea?

(Hive) #1

Does any of you have Star Wars Jedi Knight: Jedi Academy?

Yes, it’s a totally different game than ET. But it has an MP type that reminds me a lot about ET, namely ‘Siege’.

Like ET, it’s a class-based objective map. I was briefly looking at the 3 maps supplied with the game today, and I think that 2 of them could make a good ET map (converted to WWII settings, of course - so they would have to be slightly altered).

I would try myself, but I know nothing about mapping… but I think this idea have potential, so I thought I’d share…

(thegnat) #2

I’m quite disappointed. I thought someone had REAL ideas for maps to share. But NO anotherone with damn conversions! :bored:

(]UBC[ McNite) #3

omfg if u like the maps, play Jedi Knight :bash: :bash: :bash:

And tbh I d say being a decent mapper starts with NOT ripping maps of other games.

(cementoske) #4

yeah… there are much conversions, sorry but i am converting a map also

It isn’t easy to get an idea :slight_smile:

(thegnat) #5

What about using the little (tiny) mass of gray matter*?

*NOT meant to rip off Gray Matters work.

(blushing_bride) #6

OMG this has to stop. WTF is with everyone attacking new people who come to this forum. Be polite and welcoming or this forum will die. No offence intended to you lot but please try and be a bit more thoughtful with your comments, this guy merely had an idea that he decided to share with everyone. if you dont agree with it then thats fine but try and at least disagree in a friendly fashion. Again no offence intended to anyone but this forum is becoming really hostile and in being hostile becomes useless.

(Ifurita) #7

I have to agree with BB, even though he is a maker of ‘largish feeling maps’. These forums are definately less useful and helpful than a year ago, when I first started mapping

(thegnat) #8

Ok, blushing_bride has a point. But where will we go, if everyone is doing conversions? Where are the people with the original ideas?
The forums are IMO still very useful for newbies, BUT they should use it right to gain the most benefit out of it. Just asking questions that have asked and answered over and over in the past isn’t the right way to start mapping. Just my 2ct. There are several threads to discuss this topic, so ill stop now and shut up.

If a mapper doesn’t have own ideas, do the damn conversions! There won’t be new original maps - just the old things polished a bit (if even that). :disgust:

(Ifurita) #9

Agreed gnat. For those who keep asking silly question without any indication that they gave a go at it, I just ignore them and help those who tried to help themselves. Simple as that.

(Hive) #10

omfg if you don’t have anything constructive to add, shut up. Geez.

I think ET is a better mp game; that’s why I would rather play the maps in ET.

And tbh I d say being a decent mapper starts with NOT ripping maps of other games.

It’s not ripping off anyone to convert a map, I don’t understand that concensus. Ripping off is if I convert the map without saying where I got it from, claiming that it’s my own work from scratch.

But using the basis “skeleton” of this map for an ET map, while stating where it originated from, is not ripping off. In fact, I think it’s a tribute to the original map makers that you think their map is so good that you would like to play it in other games as well.

I see many custom maps for ET, but I frankly rarely see anything remotely as good as something the “pros” made - eg. actual gaming companies.

If I made a map for ET and someone wanted to convert it to some other game, I wouldn’t be mad - I would be proud that someone would like my work that much.

Conversion or no conversion: if it can become a good map, then why not do it? :???:

(SCDS_reyalP) #11

In terms of copyright law and most EULAs, converting is most certainly ‘ripping off’. Whether you find it morally acceptable is a completely different question.

(Hive) #12

[quote=“SCDS_reyalP”]

In terms of copyright law and most EULAs, converting is most certainly ‘ripping off’. Whether you find it morally acceptable is a completely different question.[/quote]

But it would only be the skeleton of the map (if not even that would have to be made by scratch), no textures or anything.

At any rate, I fail to see why so many people bash conversions all the time. You don’t like it? Then don’t play it! Stay away from it, stay away from the thread!

Really, I don’t get it… if I see a custom map, or a thread about it, I don’t like - then I don’t post comments like “OMG THIS SUX!!!111” or some shit like that, I simply ignore it. Because no-one can force me to play that map anyway… so why care?

(.Chris.) #13

ive played JK3 and i think your right in some way but i can only see the desert and hoth maps been any good for ET, also you would need to change some aspects too, like many areas would be stupid for ET as soldiers cant force jump to high places or use jet packs to cross the map like you do in JK3, iam currently working on my own maps atm so maybe someone else may be intresting in some converting.

(blushing_bride) #14

ive played JK3 and i think your right in some way but i can only see the desert and hoth maps been any good for ET, also you would need to change some aspects too, like many areas would be stupid for ET as soldiers cant force jump to high places or use jet packs to cross the map like you do in JK3, iam currently working on my own maps atm so maybe someone else may be intresting in some converting.

I dream about Star Wars Enemy Territory tbh, that would be teh cool

(nUllSkillZ) #15

There are some Star Wars skins:

But unfortunately no DL-link

(Higgins) #16

I think if you do not have a good imagination, then you should not try to make maps. You will only end up copying a map that has already been made (… trust me, my African fuel dump map, if you think so, was not a knock off from fuel dump :)).

You need a good imagination to make a map otherwise it will just be a remake :P.

(.Chris.) #17

thats why i bought JK3, when i heard about they was classes i thought yeah ill have that sounds like ET but wasnt so, hope some modders are looking at this thread tho :smiley: just imagine playing out battles from star wars in style of ET, sorta like battlefront without the huge vehicles or whatever that game is like :banana:

(Hive) #18

Yeah I know. There are 3 official siege maps: Hoth, the desert map (can’t remember the anme) and the Ragnos temple. The Ragnos temple would be crap for ET, but I think the other 2 have huge potential. Especially Hoth.