Any tips on CQC?

(AdmiralTeddy) #1

Hey there,

So I generally do ok in normal distance and far distance combat.
but when we get to the personal space zone the one where you get reeeaaal close with the enemy and they reach out and touch ya (Kappa), I find myself having issues.
And it’s not just in dirty bomb, generally in all first person games when somebody, something gets too close I get confused a bit.
http://i.imgur.com/xH8FZcm.jpg

My monitor is 2560x1440 27" which makes the screen wide at a 16:9 ratio.
If I put anything less than 120 FOV it makes it impossible to do anything in either long or close distance.
I’ve tried lowering and increasing my mouse sensitivity but that just makes my long distance encounters go bad as well as not having a significant effect on my cqc.

What generally happens to me is I find myself unable to correctly track my enemy if they are too close… or fail shooting at 2 arms distance enemies because my brain gets real slow and shoots where they last where instead of where they are.

Has anyone got any tips or tricks they use to get good at cqc? I really wanna improve on this category, specially because in a game like csgo you usually dont get that close but since dirty bomb is so fast paced and some mercs are crazy fast it’s different.

Keep on playing dirty <3

(Humbug) #2

Hm since you’re at max fov already, the only thing I can think of is raising your mouse sensitivity
run or walljump behind the enemy in cqc is also pretty effective

(AdmiralTeddy) #3

[u] I feel like this [/u]

http://i.imgur.com/IFnizd3.jpg

(AdmiralTeddy) #4

@humbug I guess I gotta try and get used to the increased sensitivity if I am to survive, makes me cry at long distance if I increase it D’:

(Humbug) #5

[quote=“Admiral Teddy;15687”][u] I feel like this [/u]
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watch this
at 2:30 he runs behind that sawbonez, easy kill

(Amerika) #6

Most of the time when people have too much of an issue in close quarters is because they have a tendency to panic and forget how/where to aim and they possible have their sensitivity screwed up (most of the time people play with too high of sensitivity that have aim issues).

I’m not sure why your FoV has to be at 120. Increasing your resolution one notch up from 1920x1080 doesn’t change anything since the game will scale up and down with resolution. Lower your FoV down to 80 or 85 or somewhere in that area that is comfortable. If you find yourself jumping the mouse and correcting a lot in a fight LOWER your sensitivity. Also, try to not let your brain panic and turn off and instead try to think of going for headshots and headshots only. Focus on that and it should help.

(Humbug) #7

[quote=“Amerika;15691”]Most of the time when people have too much of an issue in close quarters is because they have a tendency to panic and forget how/where to aim and they possible have their sensitivity screwed up (most of the time people play with too high of sensitivity that have aim issues).

I’m not sure why your FoV has to be at 120. Increasing your resolution one notch up from 1920x1080 doesn’t change anything since the game will scale up and down with resolution. Lower your FoV down to 80 or 85 or somewhere in that area that is comfortable. If you find yourself jumping the mouse and correcting a lot in a fight LOWER your sensitivity. Also, try to not let your brain panic and turn off and instead try to think of going for headshots and headshots only. Focus on that and it should help.[/quote]

i think a higher sensitivity is better, being able to turn around fast is very important, especially in cqc.
might take longer to get used to but it’s rewarding enough to practice.
also your hand will never be in a uncomfortable spot and you never need to raise the mouse from the pad and put it down again.

(AdmiralTeddy) #8

@Amerika @Humbug thanks for the tips fellas.

I’ve tried lower sensitivity and fov before and it makes it impossible to play in cqc my current setup is ok but my brain fails, so yeah the tips you guys gave are pretty awesome, I’ll try the wall jumps, running around and focusing on headshots :smiley:

(mOist) #9

How close do you sit to your Monitor/TV , if its very close the size of your TV wont help at all.

(crooKk) #10

Try gradually lowering your fov by 5. Most people I know play between 90-105 (this thread also mentions other people that use an fov in that range).

I run 1920x1080 on a 24" and use 97 fov with an in-game sens of 2.75 (dpi 2000, default windows sens) if that helps.

(Eox) #11

Play with a shotgun for a bit : shotguns are much more useful at close range, so you’ll have stop your long ranged playstyle. Keep playing with it as long as necessary.

Also, keep cool. Nobody will jump at your face if you struggle in game.

(Zenity) #12

Most top fraggers play with low sens and small FOV, which makes them actually really vulnerable in close combat (like the passing, which Humbug showed). They just rely on being able to take their targets out before it comes to this point, which often has more to do with game awareness than pure aiming.

Tracking fast moving targets on close distance is really hard, and there is probably no easy answer to this other than practice, practice, practice. :slight_smile: Sometimes it’s just about knowing when your aim will be thrown off, so you just go into evasive manoeuvres and spam into their general direction (which is rather effective if you get close up into their face), or even retreat to try a different approach.

(AdmiralTeddy) #13

@Moist arms length so it kinda takes up about 70% of my sight.

@prophetNP is love, prophetNP is lyf ;D
I’ll try that today, I use 800dpi and 10.5 in game sens. again I think the sens isn’t my main problem here, I just lose where people are cause I panic I suppose.

@Eox I actually main proxy with a shotgun, a while back I was ok but now usually in cqc I either miss-place my shots or hit the enemy in the chest and get rekt before my 2nd shot.

@Zenity a while back when I used to play csgo I had this learning curve which took me a month or so to match my mouse to my eyes (in sens I mean) I guess I have to try and match it in DB as well, I’m usually ok with rifles and smgs but with shotguns and pistols i’m a burden atm.

But yeah overall I think I might experiment with the FOV and sens a bit and see what happens. Once I find a suitable one I’ll probably move on to practicing the eye hand thing ;D

thanks for all your help guys <3

(Amerika) #14

[quote=“Humbug;15695”][quote=“Amerika;15691”]Most of the time when people have too much of an issue in close quarters is because they have a tendency to panic and forget how/where to aim and they possible have their sensitivity screwed up (most of the time people play with too high of sensitivity that have aim issues).

I’m not sure why your FoV has to be at 120. Increasing your resolution one notch up from 1920x1080 doesn’t change anything since the game will scale up and down with resolution. Lower your FoV down to 80 or 85 or somewhere in that area that is comfortable. If you find yourself jumping the mouse and correcting a lot in a fight LOWER your sensitivity. Also, try to not let your brain panic and turn off and instead try to think of going for headshots and headshots only. Focus on that and it should help.[/quote]

i think a higher sensitivity is better, being able to turn around fast is very important, especially in cqc.
might take longer to get used to but it’s rewarding enough to practice.
also your hand will never be in a uncomfortable spot and you never need to raise the mouse from the pad and put it down again.[/quote]

Well, you’re talking to a guy who uses a giant mouse pad and a 180 requires about a 10 inch swipe. I practice that swipe both ways so I can quickly pick up exactly what sensitivity I need to use in game. I’m a little more on the extreme side but how fast you can track in an FPS has very little to do with how high your sensitivity is. That is a complete misnomer and my opinion is supported by the fact that many others beyond myself who have been highly successful in online/LAN competitions in multiple games uses a setup similar to mine. It’s a popular setup because it works ridiculously well once you get used to it and over-correcting stops being an issue.

You very quickly get used to moving your mouse with your arm and not relying on micromovements with your wrist. I also have zero issue with tracking somebody close to me and in fact it’s much easier as I’m not constantly trying to correct my aim after zooming past them due to high sensitivity. My crossair mostly just sticks to them. The only issue I have, which most people also have, is when a proxy runs around the corner and super jumps off a wall and is shooting down on you. But that’s just good play on their part and I do the same thing when I play proxy.

(Eox) #15

IMO the best sensitivity is the one you’re used to. Pick something that you don’t find too fast nor too slow and pleases you, and it’s good.

(avidCow) #16

Got to shoot off to work but thought I would add a quick Q to the discussion. Can we make custom scripts/bindings in UE?. Back in the day (old fogey) I had a key bound in RTCW to switch between two FOV and even to adjust sensitivity. Might be useful for some players.

(AdmiralTeddy) #17

Oh I double checked my fov apparently it’s at 100 (which is the max in db) but in most games that i’m more successful in I use 120. Might be a cause xD