Americans how do you feel about this

(Ghosthree3) #21

He probably knows but can’t be bothered caring.

(Aazhyd) #22

Democrazy.

(XavienX) #23
(KattiValk) #24

Just don’t vote for Trump or else we will all experience something that will make Bush look good.

(RadicalMac) #25

[quote=“CausticSodaPop;63200”][quote=“RadicalMac;63151”]Politics bores tf out of me, and I’m a US American.
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I never understood you types. You’re not interested in the world around you, how it functions, or how it affects you.
If only you know how bad things really are.[/quote]

Oh I know how it works and how it affects me. I just don’t pay attention. In fact I live in a double-wide trailer in southern Mississippi with a father in prison and a drunkard for a mother and politics makes it even harder for the middle/lower class, I just ignore it and go my own way. I know what my goal in life is, and it doesn’t involve bulls**t. (Music production to be exact)

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(Yak) #27

He is currently the best you Americans have.[/quote]

Pretty sure a half-dead rabied up possum would make a better President. Incidentally, that’s also what his fake hair looks like.

(Ghosthree3) #28

It’s so so bad that the first female candidate - at least that I know of and has a chance to win - is going up against him. I don’t care if a woman is president - but it’s not my country so probably not a valid opinion - but I do kind of care if she becomes president because she’s a woman. The votes she’s going to get because of that become much more heavy when added to all the votes she’ll get because the other choice is Trump.

It would have been really interesting to see how she went up against Obama for his first election actually. Probably too much for some people to handle.

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(Frogteam) #30

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And why is that?[/quote]
@CausticSodaPop
I’ll assume you’re not American. Basically Trump is a terrible, misogynistic person. His campaign is full of inaccuracies and lies, http://lmgtfy.com/?q=fact+check+trump , finding statements he has made that are true is a harder game than finding ones that aren’t.

I am still unsure if a possum (likely with no control over the country’s actions) is a better or worse idea. They both have obvious flaws.

(Yak) #31

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It would have been really interesting to see how she went up against Obama for his first election actually. Probably too much for some people to handle.[/quote]

She actually did face off against him for the Democratic nomination in 2008, and lost because he is way better at making speeches.

(KattiValk) #32

@CausticSodaPop Why he would be a bad choice? Because he has a “good relationship” with his Mexican workers. There’s always idiots on both sides of the spectrum, but Trump is next level as far as POTUS candidates go. Bush Jr. was pretty bad, but he wasn’t an idiot.

@Ghosthree3 I don’t care if a woman gets to be POTUS, but it’d be a nice first. I’m Independent (Libertarian, which sort of makes me a liberal(ish) Republican) and as such don’t give a Nep about inner party politics and other nonsense. I haven’t picked a good candidate but I’m sure they’ll be one. Hopefully.

(watsyurdeal) #33

If Obama’s presidency taught me anything about government, is that we know that there’s changes to be made, but our government is so god damn stubborn about it. If we’re going to survive as a country, we need to adapt to changing times.

Affordable health care and legalizing of gay marriage are actually huge steps in the right direction, but we need to take it further. Legalization of marijuana, if only because it’d cost us less money to legalize it than to fight it, if prohibition of alcohol taught us anything it’s that.

Better and more affordable education, we suck in terms of that, there’s no other way to put it. We need a better way of getting our children educated, and getting adults the tools they need to pursue a career in something other than retail or the food industry.

And, of course, imo, gun control, specifically, AMMO control. Having guns isn’t the problem imo, it’s the ammunition and how easy it is to acquire. Keeping it limited to designated hunting areas or firing ranges would be a big step, though I know a lot of people won’t see it that way.

The reality is US has an ego problem, we WERE great, but nowadays we hardly are in the top 10 even. If we want to be a strong country, we need to learn how to adapt, and not be stuck in traditions. It’s ok to have culture and everything, but not if it impedes progress and keeping up with the rest of the world.

(KattiValk) #34

It’s not increasing gun control, it’s limiting the type of people who get them and requiring more competency and safety tests.

Plus, letting our service men and women use open/concealed carry while on duty here would go a long way to stopping one of the greatest jokes of the military.

(Ardez1) #35

As a brief warning, as this is straying into potentially dangerous territory… Argue positions, not people. Keep it objective and impersonal. At the first sight of any insults I will be shutting this down. People have differences, so please respect their opinions. This warning is because there are definitely some hot button issues being discussed at this point.

As far as my opinion goes, the current US Health care system is a poor. It isn’t affordable health care, it is insurance. Change the cost at the root. Hospitals charge a ridiculous amount of money because the insurance companies are almost forced to pay it. It is a ‘victimless’ crime. The victims became the uninsured because the prices were kept the same with or without insurance. The Band-Aid was the Affordable Care Act which provided insurance to those who needed it at a reduced cost or free, at the expense of those who earn a higher income.

Affordable Health Care and Affordable Health Insurance are two totally separate animals. Forcing insurance… feels dirty… Better to simply fund free clinics/hospitals out of tax increases then to force many people to purchase something they either disagree with or feel they do not need. And guess what, you get a fine if you don’t buy the insurance and are not insured by your employer/family member/guardian(usually cheaper then the cost of the insurance)… :confused:

(watsyurdeal) #36

That I also agree with, when you look at how much it costs to do certain things like pulling out wisdom teeth, giving birth to a baby in a hopsital, and so on. The bill are ridiculous.

I get that the people there went to college and got these awesome degrees and everything…but you shouldn’t be getting paid twice the amount you need to have a good living.

That’s like me as a programmer expecting to make well over 3000 plus a month when really, I probably only need about 2000 dollars to live a good life.

[quote=“Incoming;64183”]It’s not increasing gun control, it’s limiting the type of people who get them and requiring more competency and safety tests.

Plus, letting our service men and women use open/concealed carry while on duty here would go a long way to stopping one of the greatest jokes of the military.[/quote]

True but people will still see that as a threat to the 2nd amendment. Which yes, gives you the right to bear arms, but this was at a time of muskets, not fully automatic weapons and firing calibers accurate and powerful enough to kill more than a few people.

I think this a particularly tricky issue that honestly, is well over my head. I can see the need for a populace to have fire arms, but I can also see the need to better regulate it, in the same way we deal with cars. I feel like if we aren’t already tracking what guns someone has, the ammunition they have, and what they intend to buy, we need to. Because there’s no reason we shouldn’t be tracking where all this stuff is going, especially with the rather bizarre rise of shootings in the last few years.

(RadicalMac) #37

@Frogteam I hate everything about Trump except for his “Tax plan” 1% tax for people who make under 30K a year, 5% for like 31K- like 50K or something and 15% to richer people (And where I live people with 40K a year get about 35% tax… so I mean it’s probably a lie but I love the plan.

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(ludicrousBlast) #39

Sad but true, if you are rich, you can get away with almost anything. Take Justin Boober for example, he caused 20k worth of damage to his neighbors house, arrested for speeding, drunk driving, and drugs, and spent about 3 days in jail.

(Frogteam) #40

Sorry Ardez, I’ll try to keep my posts more mature.

@CausticSodaPop
It’s just that in all of his speeches and debates he states so many “facts” that are just simply not true. I have a hard time trusting his position when he keeps knowingly making statements that are false.