Aimee's sniper - PLEASE not another MOA/FEL-IX clone (suggestions for innovative weapons)

(ProfPlump) #1

First off, I think Aimee should be given a DB version of the FR F2 sniper rifle (a French sniper rifle in real life) as her individual rifle. It would also be nice to see her given a personal sidearm - the FN57 (a French handgun).

But the focus of this discussion is that I, for one, would HATE to see Aimee given a rifle that is basically another MOA clone [giving the FEL-IX a slightly lower firerate and an insignificant damage increase is very lazy in my opinion, and it would be very boring if that was done again with whatever rifle Aimee is given]. Instead, it would be awesome to see her given a rifle that has something special and unique about it. Here are some suggestions:

  1. Maybe give her a sniper that has higher headshot damage (3x multiplier instead of 2x) but has lower standard damage (such as 54 instead of 75 or 79). This kind of increased headshot damage with reduced standard damage could also be applied to the FN57 handgun.

  2. Maybe give her a sniper that ‘stuns’ the opponent and slows them down for a short while (like when you get hit in CS:GO). This effect could be ‘broken’ by the stunned opponent by having them either A) start healing naturally, or B) start healing from a health pack/health station/healing pulse. I would personally make this rifle deal much less damage than a MOA - 60 damage per bullet - given how effective a ‘stun’ would be.

  3. Maybe give her a double barrelled bolt action sniper that can fire at a PDP’s rate of fire (for two shots only), with each bullet dealing 60 damage or so, but has to do a bolt action reload after each two shots, combined with her being stuck with pistols as sidearms. You could also fire one shot and reload it without firing the second one. (This would obviously not be a good option if the FR F2 sniper was going to be used as a gun model, since that’s a single-barrel rifle).

  4. Maybe give her a heavy sniper that folds up on her back, requiring her to ‘unfold’ it each time she brings it out (taking about 2 seconds or so), but have it able to deal the original Insta-Gib that the MOA/FEL-IX used to be able to deliver. Also, if she swaps to her sidearm (or anything for that matter), she drops the fold up sniper on the ground and has to either run back to it to pick it up again, or can wait 20 seconds for it too cooldown and respawn in her inventory. This heavy sniper would also be much more draining on her movement speed while in her hands than regular snipers.

  5. Maybe take a leaf out of Overwatch’s book at give her a sniper that can fire a ‘heavy’ shot that deals, say 78 damage but uses up an entire magazine in one blast, or allow her to switch firemode into a semi automatic rifle that has a damage model that fits between the Grandeur and the Dreiss in terms of firerate and damage per bullet, and has around 15 bullets in a magazine.

JUST ANYTHING THAT ISN’T ANOTHER BLOODY MOA CLONE - PLEASE!

Anyway, if you like or dislike any of these suggestions, feel free to comment about it - just don’t be a dick about it, because I’m sure these suggestions would have a lot of balancing issues that I probably haven’t thought of yet.

(ImSploosh) #2

I love all of these suggestions. You provide a lot of different options that SD could take with her Sniper rifle and maybe future weapons. I can only hope they think more outside-the-box with future weaponry. Currently, there’s little to no difference between most guns. The differences that are there are simple and generally make one weapon obviously superior (MOA has much faster fire rate and only 4 less damage than the FELIX).

I really love the idea of the FRF2 sniper rifle… Oh man. Good times in AVA with that. It was the most used sniper rifle in that game! It was pretty damn powerful and extremely smooth. That would bring back some memories! :smiley:

(solace_) #3

Yeah, I heartily agree with this post. all of this post.

I would really love to see some new rifle that has interesting features that promote different styles of game play. I had personally been hoping for maybe something like the VSS from BFBC2 which was a automatic silenced rifle. Doesn’t have to be the same, just something different than what we have now.

That also extends to her abilities as I really dont see the third eye being used all that much.

(ImSploosh) #4

[quote=“succinctDeer;141207”]Yeah, I heartily agree with this post. all of this post.

I would really love to see some new rifle that has interesting features that promote different styles of game play. I had personally been hoping for maybe something like the VSS from BFBC2 which was a automatic silenced rifle. Doesn’t have to be the same, just something different than what we have now.

That also extends to her abilities as I really dont see the third eye being used all that much.[/quote]

BFBC2 definitely did a lot of things right regarding the guns. Each gun had a different feel to me. We can only wish/hope for Aimee’s sniper rifle to be different. I wish the MOA was like the M24 and the FELIX was like the M95 (give it a 1 shot-kill potential from the chest up) from BFBC2. 2 rifles with completely different feels, but both equally effective in their respective situations.

Aimee’s sniper rifle could be the VSS or something like the SVU as well (Silenced semi-automatic sniper rifle). What would be cooler is some sort of combination between the 2. I think what made me like those weapons so much in BFBC2 were the different options of scopes that could go with them: red dot, ACOG, and the 12x Zoom as well as the normal, default scope. Each had its advantages and you could change your playstyle in so many different ways with say just the VSS and it’s different scopes.

(solace_) #5

[quote=“Sploosh;141236”][quote=“succinctDeer;141207”]Yeah, I heartily agree with this post. all of this post.

I would really love to see some new rifle that has interesting features that promote different styles of game play. I had personally been hoping for maybe something like the VSS from BFBC2 which was a automatic silenced rifle. Doesn’t have to be the same, just something different than what we have now.

That also extends to her abilities as I really dont see the third eye being used all that much.[/quote]

BFBC2 definitely did a lot of things right regarding the guns. Each gun had a different feel to me. We can only wish/hope for Aimee’s sniper rifle to be different. I wish the MOA was like the M24 and the FELIX was like the M95 (give it a 1 shot-kill potential from the chest up) from BFBC2. 2 rifles with completely different feels, but both equally effective in their respective situations.

Aimee’s sniper rifle could be the VSS or something like the SVU as well (Silenced semi-automatic sniper rifle). What would be cooler is some sort of combination between the 2. I think what made me like those weapons so much in BFBC2 were the different options of scopes that could go with them: red dot, ACOG, and the 12x Zoom as well as the normal, default scope. Each had its advantages and you could change your playstyle in so many different ways with say just the VSS and it’s different scopes. [/quote]

yeah, switchable scopes sure would be nice.

(ProfPlump) #6

[quote=“Sploosh;141236”][quote=“succinctDeer;141207”]Yeah, I heartily agree with this post. all of this post.

I would really love to see some new rifle that has interesting features that promote different styles of game play. I had personally been hoping for maybe something like the VSS from BFBC2 which was a automatic silenced rifle. Doesn’t have to be the same, just something different than what we have now.

That also extends to her abilities as I really dont see the third eye being used all that much.[/quote]

BFBC2 definitely did a lot of things right regarding the guns. Each gun had a different feel to me. We can only wish/hope for Aimee’s sniper rifle to be different. I wish the MOA was like the M24 and the FELIX was like the M95 (give it a 1 shot-kill potential from the chest up) from BFBC2. 2 rifles with completely different feels, but both equally effective in their respective situations.

Aimee’s sniper rifle could be the VSS or something like the SVU as well (Silenced semi-automatic sniper rifle). What would be cooler is some sort of combination between the 2. I think what made me like those weapons so much in BFBC2 were the different options of scopes that could go with them: red dot, ACOG, and the 12x Zoom as well as the normal, default scope. Each had its advantages and you could change your playstyle in so many different ways with say just the VSS and it’s different scopes. [/quote]

The issue is that BC2 has a much faster time to kill on ALL weapons, so giving the FEL-IX a 1 shot kill for an upper body shot would be far too strong in a game like Dirty Bomb, where guns are much weaker. Same with CS:GO - the AWP is only not overpowered with it’s 1 shot body shot kill, because the freaking AK can kill with only 1 bullet to the end, WITH head armour.

In comparison, in Dirty Bomb, the guns are far less damaging and that’s why putting in such a strong gun would completely throw out the balance. Also, adding in specific hitboxes for ‘upper body’ on each merc would be very time intensive, and probably not worth it just for one gun, so I don’t see the devs doing that very soon :confused:

(ImSploosh) #7

^Yeah, figured that. I’m just always wishing that the Felix had a special quality to it or something because it’s just fairly weak right now. The only reason I use it is for the feel of power, despite it actually lacking in that area.

I thought about the much slower time to kill in this game with all weapons so it makes sense why it’s the way it is. Most people suggest bringing that headshot instagib back, but just for the Felix so it has some sort of advantage. I wouldn’t mind that. :smiley:

Back to Aimee though… SPLASH DAMAGE, PLS IMPLEMENT SOMETHING FROM THIS LIST!!! :disappointed:

(TheVulpesFox) #8

Maybe a single shot sniper rifle like the Remingtom SPR 18 rifle. Or maybe something with a bipod, just because aesthetics…

(solace_) #9

yeah. a really high risk, high reward rifle. high damage but only one shot can be loaded at once with a 2-3second reload maybe. Would it have a scope? idk just throwing thoughts out there.

(BananaSlug) #10

mix of pdp and m4 ?

(solace_) #11

@ProfPlump I thought this was such a great topic I made a video. what do you think of my suggestions?

https://youtube.com/watch?v=c3vAwSnA2Ks

(Jesus) #12

I love these im waiting so bad for aimee just because im french i wouldnt want her to be carbon copy of other mercs

(ProfPlump) #13

[quote=“Jesus;149970”]I love these im waiting so bad for aimee just because im french i wouldnt want her to be carbon copy of other mercs
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They probably won’t though, sadly… They’re pretty damn lazy when it comes to implementing new weapons.

(SaulWolfden) #14

I’d honestly care about her being added if she got the GSR.

(Jesus) #15

[quote=“ProfPlump;149971”][quote=“Jesus;149970”]I love these im waiting so bad for aimee just because im french i wouldnt want her to be carbon copy of other mercs
[/quote]

They probably won’t though, sadly… They’re pretty damn lazy when it comes to implementing new weapons.[/quote]

Yeah but i dont care i prebought OverWatch there is a female sniper hero called Widowmaker real name Amélie Lacroix she has way more ability and a way more unique gameplay than any merc in DB. So ill have my french female sniper anyway now the real question is who will bring it to me first SD or Blizzard i dont why but i feel like im gonna uninstall DB in a month or two. Their non sense with jumpshot Sparks and Competitive premade is getting on my nerves

(sgtCrookyGrin) #16

The problem I see with Snipers in games is that they never really were easy to balance, they are hard to balance because of their awkward one shotting abilities and semi auto truck powers. Not saying it’s impossible but rather that it is so difficult that people would rather focus on fixing other weapons like the assault rifles since they are simple. I don’t see what we can do to give Aimee a good sniper rifle since any of the sniper rifles will behave pretty much the same except one performs better in general like the MOA. I would like to see something new but I don’t think the DEVs will consider trying to make her a new weapon with the FELIX and PDP still not primary weapons for recons.