Aimee/FEL-IX buffing?

(frostyvampire) #1

After Vaseline got Quick Eye most people stopped playing Aimee.

The HB sensor is a lot better than the SNITCH (by all aspects)
Vassili has more health
Aimee is faster but speed on snipers is useless anyways
Vassili can use MOA, Aimee can’t

What I think you should do is buff Aimee’s SNITCH and also make FEL-IX a bit better, some people even call it “A Bad MOA”

Here’s an idea of what can be done to the SNITCH:

  1. Spotting and defibrillating always come together - If you get defibrillated, you are also spotted and the other way around (so Spotter augment will also increase the defibrillation radius). Yes, this means that Enigma will be insanely useful because it will also reduce the defibrillation time
  2. Make SNITCH able to spot/defibrillate people while it’s still mid-air
  3. Make SNITCH’s vertical range bigger (maybe double of horizontal), so you can stick it to high surfaces, making it hard to be destroyed by enemy players
  4. Make it so instead of getting zapped every time you get spotted again, make it so you lose 1hp every second while you are defibrillated, so you cannot start regenerating health until the effect wears off
  5. Because it might be a bit too OP, nerf the def/spot duration to 5 seconds, but the timer will not go down if you are still in SNITCH’s vision - If you are in SNITCH’s range, you will have permanent spot/def status until you leave the area and wait 5 seconds or destroy it. This also means that if you stand in a health station but still visible by the SNITCH, your
  6. If SNITCH is destroyed, all effects wear off from all players. This doesn’t apply to reclaiming
  7. Aimee will get +70xp spotted assist AND +15xp for defibrillation assist AND a small amount (1-5xp) combat assist for the damage SNITCH does to the enemies.

An xp buff for all recons: Killing an enemy that you yourself spotted will reward you +25xp for a spotted kill. Just like Thunder earns +50xp for killing concussed players. It will make snipers earning xp easier. I think you should rebalance the way you earn xp to make all mercs earn about the same amount of xp because right now Aura earns xp too easily while with Rhino is really difficult to do so

I think this will balance Aimee a bit and make her equal, if not better than Vassili. She will still be harder to use because you will have to find good spots for the SNITCH to be hidden and not destroyed but there will be a reason to use her over Vassili

Now for the FEL-IX.
I know this should go in Weapon Discussion but I’m too lazy to make 2 threads and this is related to Aimee
Just 1 small buff: Make it instantly finish players with 90hp or less in one headshot.
This means that if you headshot a Proxy, that’s it, she is dead. It will give you an actual reason to use FEL-IX over MOA because the instant finish is really useful, but it will still be balanced and MOA won’t be much better than the FEL-IX because with the MOA you still need to lower enemy’s health to 50 and most of the time it’s not gonna happen so you have to first kill and then finish with a 2nd bullet
It still won’t be able to insta kill Sparks or Aura with a bodyshot but it will instantly gib 25% of the mercs (if headshot) and if your teammates do a tiny bit of damage to most other mercs they will die from a headshot too.

(Equanimity) #2

One thing that I love about the felix… a body shot does 79, and the snitch does 1 dmg on debilitation, so it can 1 shot aura or sparks, almost, lol.

I made a thread about giving the snitch the ability to debilitate and spot while flying through the air but people seem hesitant about it for some reason. As it stands snitch is just too easy to shut down.

(frostyvampire) #3

[quote=“Equanimity;184923”]One thing that I love about the felix… a body shot does 79, and the snitch does 1 dmg on debilitation, so it can 1 shot aura or sparks, almost, lol.

I made a thread about giving the snitch the ability to debilitate and spot while flying through the air but people seem hesitant about it for some reason. As it stands snitch is just too easy to shut down.[/quote]

SNITCH also gives you 25% more damage. Which means you can 1 shot bodyshot anyone up to Phoenix, but it’s still really weak if you compare it to MOA Vassili and a good sniper will always go for the headshot, also like you said, SNITCH gets destroyed really easily and then you have to wait 30 seconds (+ another 5 seconds for it getting destroyed) before being able to use it again.
PDP sucks and even if you really want to use it, it’s better on Vassili
MOA Vassili is a lot better than FEL-IX Aimee. And even a FEL-IX Vassili is better than FEL-IX Aimee.
Grandeur is just a bad weapon (at least for Aimee), it has no scope and it’s only good for mid range, and Aimee’s health is too low to use it effectively, it’s nice on Redeye but not Aimee

(Ohsnapkline) #4

I find Aimee Syncs well with other mercs simply because her snitch increases all the dmg other team mates do as well.

her limitations aside, her debuff melts high health mercs imho

so I imagine the scenario being an Aimee for the debuff a phantom to stop an aura from removing the debuff with her sentry and a stoker to finish them all off

(frostyvampire) #5

[quote=“straightforwardOdyssey;185443”]I find Aimee Syncs well with other mercs simply because her snitch increases all the dmg other team mates do as well.

her limitations aside, her debuff melts high health mercs imho

so I imagine the scenario being an Aimee for the debuff a phantom to stop an aura from removing the debuff with her sentry and a stoker to finish them all off[/quote]

The debuff is nice, but if you take Aimee and compare her to Vassili, you can clearly see that Vassili is better in everything

Vassili has better primaries
Vassili has machine pistols
Heartbeat Sensor can detect people through walls and it has a radius, SNITCH only spots people in a straight line and if you go away from it’s vision you are no longer spotted (only defibrillated)
HB sensor has a recharge time of 17 seconds, SNITCH has 30 seconds. Which means if your HB sensor is destroyed it’s not as bad as if your SNITCH is destroyed
SNITCH will always be in the enemy team’s vision if it sees them, which puts it at a risk of being destroyed, HB sensor can be thrown to random holes and behind walls the enemy team can’t reach, so it will safely stay there and detect people for the next 17 seconds

(copperCucumber) #6

frosty where you on the smooth stream or am i dreaming? xD

(frostyvampire) #7

@copperCucumber
Ye, I just joined their server, it’s not hard to join it if you are quick :stuck_out_tongue:

(Melinder) #8

I don’t understand why so many people have a problem with the Felix. It has a stronger bullet than the Moa (the damage doesn’t make a difference in one-shotting mercs with either a headshot or body shot, but that 4 damage could be the deciding factor in your teammates winning or losing an aim duel), has a larger magazine, and (in my opinion) a more clear scope.

Aimee herself has a higher skill ceiling than Vassili. The heartbeat sensor is good, don’t get me wrong, having a spherical spotting range through walls is so damn powerful. But in the right hands, the Snitch can be used as a far more aggressive option, still allowing your team to pre-fire enemies much like the Heartbeat sensor, however with the added bonus of them dying 25% faster (approximately). The Felix and the Moa have the exact same capabilities of one-shotting somebody who is debilitated (Moa hitting 93.75 | Felix hitting 98.75, though I am unaware how the damage rounding works, as technically a shot from a Felix + the 1 damage from the Snitch adds up to 99.75, however I’m not sure if it rounds to 100 or 99).

As for the point on movement speed, I would like to point out that movement speed helps a lot in sniping if you have the right skillset to pull it off. More move speed = further long-jumps, and long-jumping peeking is one of the better ways to out-snipe the opponent.

I also have to disagree with this (probably because I have 4,000 kills on Aimee, and 90% of them are PDP kills). This was probably the most powerful setup I had ever used on Dirty Bomb. However it was during the phase where the Snitch could spot an infinite vertical range. If Snitched, the PDP can two hit up to Sawbonez in the body, or one shot in the head. It’s spammy as all hell, meaning you can kill a Rhino/Thunder faster with the PDP than you can with the Moa/Felix, and requires less skill to output more dps than the bolt-actions. Regarding “It’s better on Vassili”, the PDP benefits a lot from high mobility.

(frostyvampire) #9

[quote=“Cam;185813”]I don’t understand why so many people have a problem with the Felix. It has a stronger bullet than the Moa (the damage doesn’t make a difference in one-shotting mercs with either a headshot or body shot, but that 4 damage could be the deciding factor in your teammates winning or losing an aim duel), has a larger magazine, and (in my opinion) a more clear scope.

Aimee herself has a higher skill ceiling than Vassili. The heartbeat sensor is good, don’t get me wrong, having a spherical spotting range through walls is so damn powerful. But in the right hands, the Snitch can be used as a far more aggressive option, still allowing your team to pre-fire enemies much like the Heartbeat sensor, however with the added bonus of them dying 25% faster (approximately). The Felix and the Moa have the exact same capabilities of one-shotting somebody who is debilitated (Moa hitting 93.75 | Felix hitting 98.75, though I am unaware how the damage rounding works, as technically a shot from a Felix + the 1 damage from the Snitch adds up to 99.75, however I’m not sure if it rounds to 100 or 99).

As for the point on movement speed, I would like to point out that movement speed helps a lot in sniping if you have the right skillset to pull it off. More move speed = further long-jumps, and long-jumping peeking is one of the better ways to out-snipe the opponent.

I also have to disagree with this (probably because I have 4,000 kills on Aimee, and 90% of them are PDP kills). This was probably the most powerful setup I had ever used on Dirty Bomb. However it was during the phase where the Snitch could spot an infinite vertical range. If Snitched, the PDP can two hit up to Sawbonez in the body, or one shot in the head. It’s spammy as all hell, meaning you can kill a Rhino/Thunder faster with the PDP than you can with the Moa/Felix, and requires less skill to output more dps than the bolt-actions. Regarding “It’s better on Vassili”, the PDP benefits a lot from high mobility.[/quote]

@Cam
MOA has less cooldown between shots (0.1 or 0.2 secs faster) and if you take an ammo package you get 9 bullets (1.5 clips) while FEL-IX is only 1 clip (7 bullets).
The scope doesn’t really matter a bit
98.75 is rounded to 99, this means that you can 1 shot anyone including Phoenix, PDP is 2 shot kills on Sawbonez but FEL-IX at the same time is insta kill.

The problem with SNITCH is that it’s easy to destroy because it’s always in line of sight of the enemy team, HB sensor can be thrown in random spots and it’s a lot harder to notice

Idk what to say about the speed, I usually just hide with my head peeking somewhere and some times I try to get behind the enemy and surprise them, speed is nice but I just don’t see it as important on snipers, the extra health seems a lot better to me

PDP is good for people who can’t aim because there’s no punishment for missing shots, but a good sniper will always prefer a bolt action unless the enemy team is noobs with 3 Proxys’, 2 Auras’ and that 1 Kiratana. And like I said, even if you are one of those who prefer auto snipers, it’s better to use it on Vassili than Aimee, and even better on Redeye because it actually makes sense on him due to him being unable to use bolt action.
It’s spammy but the recoil of it is horrible, I tried it already and I even had games where I was trolling with Aimee Vassili and Redeye squad all with PDP, the recoil is just too horrible and you can’t just spam click like you can in csgo, you have to shoot, move your mouse then shoot again and then do it again if it’s Rhino, considering you get 3 headshots and don’t miss, it takes time to get the aim back (about 0.4-1 seconds) and during that time you are visible and can get shot, with a bolt action you can hide after every shot, sure it takes a bit more time but it’s safer and with PDP you probably won’t hit all the shots because after they shoot you there’s a lot of flinching and you will just panic and spam them so it will take another few shots.
It’s not a bad gun, but it’s a lot worse than bolt action. I only recommend using it on Redeye

(copperCucumber) #10

@copperCucumber
Ye, I just joined their server, it’s not hard to join it if you are quick :P[/quote]

lol i fucking joined 12/14 and untill it loaded the lobby it was fucking full and didnt let me in >:(

(Herr_Hanz) #11

the only reason i go with vassili is because of the moa, i love the felix, but the moa is just better, mostly because of the fire rate and the scope.

all i need to play FELIX aimee (i have already, its great, but moa vassili is just too good) is giving the felix the scope of the moa, + some other buff.

my dream sniper: FELIX look, MOA scope, FELIX ammo size, MOA fire rate, and the S&W as secondary + cricket bat as melee.

snitch vs sensor is difficult. i like the sensor because its more spammable, but the damage of the snitch is also nice, only getting the snitch in a good place is tricky.