Add "decent" cosmetic content to store

(Bangtastic) #1

As we all know the ingame store is working as intended. As far as I know is Nexon is involved creating microtransactions. Personally I would like to see in future decent loadout cards (e.g. obsidian cards). Be it premium cards, or simply new obsidians. Some cards might be sold during a specific time window, but a solid base collection of content for the store is essential. When I take a look at the store, there is nothing worth spending on.

Cases are a great Idea, but the content is basically the same as for normal cases. In addition the best obtainable card is cobalt, which I do not prefer over swiss gold skins! Plus chances are high you get a silver card in an elite case. I rather buy an obsidian skin for 10 bucks than 2 elite cases with 2 highly possible silver cards.
Splitting up cases and introducing a lower tier case is not necessarily the best action since the content is basically the same once again. Why should I bother getting something which is already available for free (tradeups, lucky normal case drops).

So first and foremost I would like to see obsidian-like cards in the store. This is probably the easiest solution without changing the loadout system at all. Cosmetic content is mostly independent, unlike balancing, gameplay, merc development. I do not see a problem to push out more cosmetic related stuff. Once released there is no post-release-work necessary but announcing.

I really would like to buy stuff from the store in order to support Nexon/SplashDamage. But there is nothing whatsoever which appeals to me. The value is not there for me yet. I hope we are going to see a shift of creativity there in favor of worthful microtransactions.

Thoughts on premium loadouts? I would not mind when they are obtainable ONLY via store for the extra amount of exclusiveness. What do you think, is this a good idea? Any other suggestions for microtransactions are welcome.

Cheers Bangtast1c

(Faraleth) #2

We’ve been told there’s definitely some more promotional ones in the works (possibly along the lines of the Logitech and Alienware cards), but I definitely agree! I think I’d rather spend a little more on perhaps a specific loadout and skin for a merc, than a “chance” of a rare skin I want…

The only condition I would have with “premium loadouts” would be that they CAN’T be different than the normal loadouts we get from regular cases (ie. no new sets of weapons and augments exclusive to “premium loadouts”) because that would be drawing far too close to the possibility of power-creep or P2W.

However, I think it sounds like an awesome idea! :slight_smile:

PS. It’s confirmed founders cards will never be available for purchase/given away again, however other Obsidian ones I really like the idea of, and maybe some other types too!

(uWotm8-AU) #3

They’re not going to shoot themselves in the foot.

Why would they introduce a system where you can buy the loadout / skin that you want when the current system will make them more money?

Guys, this random bs about trading up to get a cobalt and getting something you don’t want and will never use is not an accident.

It’s exactly how they designed it, and it’s working as intended.

(Amerika) #4

I personally just don’t like gambling. I’ve only given SD/Nexon $43 because it was for things that has nothing to do with gambling and allowed me to buy what I wanted. I’m cool with throwing money at people who make a great game. I want to support them. But I do not want to throw my money into a slot machine. Especially when that slot machine is rigged with worse than Vegas odds at getting anything you’d actually want.

(FireWorks) #5

Id like to give them money for the great game they created and that I enjoy playing. The problem is, they will never see it via the current model. I refuse to buy the randomized stuff period.

A bit gambing is fine. The whole concept relying on gambling and abusing peoples weaknesses, just no. Open secret in the industry, the big money comes from the few addicted gamblers.

(watsyurdeal) #6

Personally, as much as I don’t like the whole loadout card thing. I don’t personally want skins or cosmetics.

I much rather have an ingame market place, where I can spend credits for cards other people have put up for sale.

This way I can get rid of Cobalts that I don’t want for one that others do have.

This will definitely create an ingame economy, but then again, the game is heavily lending itself toward that as it is. It already has the currency, it has the product, it just needs a better supplier. Cases and trade ups only fill the gap so much.

(MarsRover) #7

[quote=“uWotm8-AU;83285”]They’re not going to shoot themselves in the foot.

Why would they introduce a system where you can buy the loadout / skin that you want when the current system will make them more money?

Guys, this random bs about trading up to get a cobalt and getting something you don’t want and will never use is not an accident.

It’s exactly how they designed it, and it’s working as intended.[/quote]

Posts in this thread (while certainly not representative of the whole player base) suggest that they aren’t making any money.

I won’t buy anything with current level of RNG. Either reduce price of Elite cases to 0.99 or reduce RNG significantly.

PS. God I think this is like my 10th post on this subject in the last few days. SD, I want to give you my money, why don’t you want it? :cry:

(Ardez1) #8

[quote=“MarsRover;83303”][quote=“uWotm8-AU;83285”]They’re not going to shoot themselves in the foot.

Why would they introduce a system where you can buy the loadout / skin that you want when the current system will make them more money?

Guys, this random bs about trading up to get a cobalt and getting something you don’t want and will never use is not an accident.

It’s exactly how they designed it, and it’s working as intended.[/quote]

Posts in this thread (while certainly not representative of the whole player base) suggest that they aren’t making any money.

I won’t buy anything with current level of RNG. Either reduce price of Elite cases to 0.99 or reduce RNG significantly.

PS. God I think this is like my 10th post on this subject in the last few days. SD, I want to give you my money, why don’t you want it? :cry: [/quote]

Until they change the system, it is likely they are indeed making money. If they were losing money they would have some incentive to change things greatly rather than just release a new type of case.

However I do think that dividing the cases into merc groups was a definite step for the better, although not what many of us wanted. They at least understood that too much RNG is a bad thing. Hopefully it gets better along those lines.

(Mister__Wiggles) #9

I would like to see premium cards come in. Maybe unique skins and maybe a unique melee weapon would be something they could include. I personally think that the melee slot can be changed depending in skins because melee isn’t a huge part of the game and the differences on all the options are not big enough to define an out right favourite. I would love a sledgehammer option for Fletcher though…

(sirjj) #10

I spent a LOT of money on skins when I used to play LoL some years ago. I would do the same here too. Also a sledgehammer option for Fletcher sounds too bad ass lol…

(MarsRover) #11

[quote=“Ardez;83364”]Until they change the system, it is likely they are indeed making money. If they were losing money they would have some incentive to change things greatly rather than just release a new type of case.

However I do think that dividing the cases into merc groups was a definite step for the better, although not what many of us wanted. They at least understood that too much RNG is a bad thing. Hopefully it gets better along those lines.[/quote]

We have no way of knowing this. I hope DB is still in the “development” stage of the plan, and in a few months, when all the base content is done, we will see a big marketing push combined with an overhaul of the store. I just don’t see DB succeeding when mercs are very easy to buy with credits compared to the 9.99 price, Bronze loadouts are also obtainable with credits, while bling is extremely expensive after factoring in the RNG.

Do we know who foots the bill? Is it Nexon or SD from their own pockets? Or both?

(SteelMailbox) #12

Well the RNG involved ATM is insane and SD knows it and said we might see a change (or maybe I am just making stuff up) so there is this prob solved.
Promo cards are definitely coming, most likely more Alienware and new Logitech cards so there is another prob solved.
About buying obsidian cards, I feel like these cards are supposed to be exclusive, as far as I think we (open beta players) are likely to get obsidian cards for our participation I don’t think they should be available to everyone.
About the “Cobalt<Swiss red” I can understand you but have you saw how shiny are the chrome weapons, so shiny.

(CCP115) #13

[quote=“MarsRover;83382”][quote=“Ardez;83364”]Until they change the system, it is likely they are indeed making money. If they were losing money they would have some incentive to change things greatly rather than just release a new type of case.

However I do think that dividing the cases into merc groups was a definite step for the better, although not what many of us wanted. They at least understood that too much RNG is a bad thing. Hopefully it gets better along those lines.[/quote]

We have no way of knowing this. I hope DB is still in the “development” stage of the plan, and in a few months, when all the base content is done, we will see a big marketing push combined with an overhaul of the store. I just don’t see DB succeeding when mercs are very easy to buy with credits compared to the 9.99 price, Bronze loadouts are also obtainable with credits, while bling is extremely expensive after factoring in the RNG.

Do we know who foots the bill? Is it Nexon or SD from their own pockets? Or both?[/quote]

They pretty much have to change it. Not a lot of people like the current system, it’s just too RNG to be useful.

As the devs have said, a market is on the way. Combined with steam trading and cosmetics, we could get a nice economy going, which would help grow the playerbase a bit.

(PeneTraitor) #14

Pink Fragger skin plz. Maybe give him a half shirt and some roller blades to add insult to all the injury. Lispy voice pack too.

(disguisedRocket) #15

[quote=“Ardez;83364”]
Until they change the system, it is likely they are indeed making money. If they were losing money they would have some incentive to change things greatly rather than just release a new type of case.[/quote]
Logical fallacies: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_dilemma

(Sir_Slam) #16

I’m one of those diseased types that perfers the silver loadouts over all other card types.
That being said I’ve never been a cosmetic whore. In general it’s never been something I’ve cared about. Even in the long dreaded HatSimulator 2, I just never got into trading,

I might be weird here, but I’d rather just drop $60 on this game and have all the practical content. Done. That’s as much as brand new release, and I think DB is worth it. But all this cosmetic junk is ultimately meaningless to me.

But it’s nice for other reasons. I get to play this game for free while everyone else blows all their cash on…well…useless junk. Worked for me in league too.

(YeOldeButtcheek) #17

They said there was going to be a new Promotional code, but that was a Soon™ said early June.

(extraordinaryEmperor) #18

SD is pretty generous with its credit earnings, so I’d like to have an incentive to spend money, like coloured uniforms which give you more of an identity. I think added customisable guns (not scopes or anything that enhances the gun), like different coloured magazines, different coloured stock, different barrel lengths etc.

(gg2ez) #19

[quote=“Faraleth;83236”]We’ve been told there’s definitely some more promotional ones in the works (possibly along the lines of the Logitech and Alienware cards), but I definitely agree! I think I’d rather spend a little more on perhaps a specific loadout and skin for a merc, than a “chance” of a rare skin I want…

The only condition I would have with “premium loadouts” would be that they CAN’T be different than the normal loadouts we get from regular cases (ie. no new sets of weapons and augments exclusive to “premium loadouts”) because that would be drawing far too close to the possibility of power-creep or P2W.

However, I think it sounds like an awesome idea! :slight_smile:

PS. It’s confirmed founders cards will never be available for purchase/given away again, however other Obsidian ones I really like the idea of, and maybe some other types too![/quote]

@Faraleth What about Razer promotional cards? They would look awesome!