A role for the SMG-9

(affableTricycle) #1

The Crotzni and KEK-10 are the close-quarters high-DPS SMGs.

The Hochfir is fast firing and is very accurate, but has poor DPS.

The Blishlok is suited towards long range due to its slow firerate and long reload.

The SMG-9 is a slower-firing Crotzni with marginally more accuracy.

Common sense says that the Crotz and the SMG-9 should have a similar arrangement to the Timik-47 and the M4A1 (in an ideal world at least), where the Crotzni is a CQC spray-and-pray weapon whereas the SMG-9 is accurate and effective at range. But the Blishlok is already good at range, and the SMG-9 loses lots of damage over range, making it unsuitable for ranged combat.

So we’ve got close quarters SMGs, a long range SMG, and a laser accurate SMG. What niche could the SMG-9 fit into?

Why, MAGAZINE SIZE OF COURSE! I propose that the SMG-9 be given a drum magazine similar to a Thompson, with somewhere between 75 and 100 rounds, and have its reload lengthened a significant amount.

This would give it a niche in supportive, suppressive fire, as well as being good in long drawn-out firefights.

This also makes sense for the mercs who have access to the SMG-9 - Sawbonez and Bushwhacker are quite defensive, support-oriented mercs, and Nader is good for area denial. A large magazine fits these roles well.

Additionally, this makes sense from an aesthetic standpoint. The SMG-9 is some kind of weird, custom-modded, not-actually-a-real-gun gun, unlike all the other weapons which are just real guns with stupid names. If it’s just a gun whacked together from whatever Bushwhacker found in his basement, it having a custom drum magazine would be more believable than an AKS-74U having one.

(SaulWolfden) #2

I seriously just hate it when I keep getting this for Sawbonez, it really has no reason to be as bad as it is compared to every other SMG option, this would at least offset the poor damage overall imo.

(affableTricycle) #3

Hey, it’s not that bad. I’d say it’s better than the Blishlok.

There’s no real reason for it to have such bad damage dropoff though.

(omegaskorpion) #4

SMG-9 is actualy based on real gun, i just dont remember what gun it was. But it looks like current generation M4 so its propably smg version of M4 (with 9mm ammo).

Propably the only weapon ingame that does not directly represent any known weapon is Bishlock, since it looks both Kriss Vector And Thompson.

(also reason why most of the weapons dont have their real names, is propably because the real weapon names cost monney, M4 is old weapons so it does not have (name) cost anymore)

I would like to see diversity between weapons like m4 and timik (ak) and also between smg-9 and crotzni.

While your suggestion isnt bad, i would prefer if:

Timik would deal 16 damage, but with lower firerate.
m4 would fire the current timik fire rate.

crotzni would deal 14-13 damage but with lower fire rate and accuracy.
smg-9 would shoot as fast as the current crotzni

This would bring diversity in to the table.

However i would like to see more weapons overal and more customization.
Like smg-9 with a belt mag XD

I have done few ideas my self how [url=“http://forums.dirtybomb.nexon.net/discussion/11609/weapons-rebalance-gameplay-and-possible-new-weapons-ideas/p1”]current weapons could be balanced and possible new weapons.

(NuclearBreadstick) #5

[quote=“omegaskorpion;65796”]SMG-9 is actualy based on real gun, i just dont remember what gun it was. But it looks like current generation M4 so its propably smg version of M4 (with 9mm ammo).
[/quote]

Actually, the SMG-9 has been quite an issue for gun nerds. We srsly can’t tell what it is. Common sense says Colt 9MM, but the upper receiver isn’t the right shape. It could be an MPX, but it still has the wrong charging handle. And etc. etc…

(Gi.Am) #6

SMG-9 is great on Nader ,perfect for cleaning up after the nades, without concering yourself with proper gun control.

That said making it a medium slowfiring, average damaging , fairly accurate mini lmg. Is a change I could get behind :smile: .

([eXo]Deeds) #7

If your aim is good, take crotzni… and remember face is da place.
If you dont hit with all your shots, take SMG-9. Sorry, but true.

(Samniss_Arandeen) #8

[quote=“Gi.Am;65987”]SMG-9 is great on Nader ,perfect for cleaning up after the nades, without concering yourself with proper gun control.

That said making it a medium slowfiring, average damaging , fairly accurate mini lmg. Is a change I could get behind :smile: .[/quote]

Yeah, make Nader even more of a mini-Fragger.

(Crash) #9

I dont know about all of this. A friend of mine rolls SMG-9 with his bonez and hes wicked good with it @EtherFox.

Perhaps everyone should take the time to become proficient (were talking more than a few games or weeks) with the merc/weapon prior to bashing on said weapon or merc. I mean, I main the remburg on proxy and I take that whole entire “shotguns are bad competetively/easy to counter” and poop all over it (and so do many others). Min 10 servers, scrims, you name it.