A 40% reduction in players for August vs July. Cause for concern?

(god1) #21

I wonder if people will ever realize that Overwatch doesn’t have any of the defining factors of a MOBA game.
Just because it has abilities doesn’t make it any more of a MOBA than let’s say Counter Strike is.

(KayDubz) #22

Team and objective based FPS with unique playable characters that have their own unique abilities.

Yeah, totally not the same category. :wink:
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It’s really not the same category. At all. Dirty Bomb will be:
A) Much more fast paced
B) Not based around abilities as much as Overwatch currently is from what we have seen.
C) Less like a moba and more like an FPS

Also, Overwatch is based a lot more around kills than DB currently is. The more kills, the more abilities you will use.
The very essence of the two games are completely different. Just because they share a few aspects doesn’t mean they are even close to similar.

Take this gameplay and watch it.[/quote]
As someone who plays casually, but plays his fave games a LOT, don’t discount the following opinion. Overwatch, TF2, and Dirty Bomb fall into the same category. Class based shooters built around team work and playing your role properly. Heck, I found Warface and DB thanks to the “Team Based” tag in a Steam search.

Thats what I was looking for when I decided to try out DB. Thats why I was drawn to Warface as well, but its lag and lack of dedicated servers made me dump it after a month or so.

I used to be strictly a Call of Duty guy when it came to FPS games…but I was bored of those games. And I really loved Battlefield Bad Company when the first one came out, so I decided to jump back into class based team work oriented shooters again.

(neverplayseriou) #23

By looking at january and february you could’ve seen it coming, the numbers just spiked way to high to be permanent.

(MarsRover) #24

1300% increase in “game is dying” threads for August vs July cause for concern?

No, it’s just annoying.

(B_Montiel) #25

As long as SD and Nexon are satisfied with the numbers of players and continue to support the game, I’m happy.

For the overwatch vs dirty bomb discuss, it’s like comparing swiss cheese and roquefort. Both are cheeses, one is so balanced in its taste that it won’t hurt anyone, while the other is a feast for strong cheese lovers only.

(Fiktio) #26

I would be actually surprised if player base number wouldn’t drop after the game came out of closed beta and have been open beta for awhile.

It’s not a surprise that a lot people gets interested about the game first, test it out and some find the game interesting and some find out that this game probably wasn’t their kind of game.

People comes and people goes. This isn’t unusual thing at all.

(infiniteAlmond) #27

Its true the two games will have very little in common but I think there are plenty of people who enjoy dirty bomb will try overwatch out and find they enjoy it more. Ill be trying it out, I played tf2 for years and none of the games I tried to replace it with survived more than a few months. I am not certain overwatch will be good but it’ll probably be pretty fun.

Crtically I dont think dirtybomb is a replacement for tf2, which means anyone like me who is playing it because its the most fun shooter in the last few years is not guarenteed to stick around.

That said I dont think there is any particular need to freak out about the numbers. If you are really afraid of dirty bomb falling in to irrelevance then the answer is to make more content and become an advert for it. Make people understand why you enjoy it so much, help them enjoy it as much as you do. Sniff is good at this, he’s just enthusiastic about this game he likes. It doesnt need to be any more complicated than that.

(SteelMailbox) #28

Not another one of these threads.
As it was mentioned about 100 times the game is in pretty good shape for an Open beta seriously I haven’t saw another beta game that succeeds as much as this one or even better (well maybe a few but still).
Do I think the game is dying?
Well a wise man once said


So I wish people would stop posting all these dying threads cause no, the game is not RIP in pepperoni

(Sterling) #29

If I had 4k people playing a game I made, I’d be pretty fucking happy. Plus, it’s not like the game is dead like NEOTOKYO or one of those less known Source mods. Now THAT is dead. We still have a fair amount of players on the servers, and I never took more than 30 seconds to find a good match on the server browser.

In short, just because CS:GO has more players, it doesn’t automatically mean this game is dead.

(Radford_343) #30

I love DB. But I am not kidding when my personal experience is that around 80-90% of pub games I play are just downright terrible games.

DB requires more teamwork than the average gamer is used to these days, and it shows. I must admit I have grown frustrated by the lack of teamplay, and so have many others.

Its not tempting to throw yourself on the obj, when you’re pretty much alone in doing so. Dying and dying and dying because your team doesn’t back you up.

And before you ask; no I don’t really enjoy comp mode. I wish I did :slight_smile:

I think DB will survive just fine though. It will probably retain a sizeable amount of dedicated players for quite some time (I hope!). I have spent money on DB and I have no regrets!

(srswizard) #31

If you think Overwatch isn’t going to make a noticeable dent on DB’s playerbase, you’re delusional.
Pretty much all of the 15 or so people that I chat with, who are/have been playing Dirty Bomb, are looking forward to jumping onto Overwatch, and I’m ready to jump ships too.
The development of DB is dreadfully slow, and to this day, even the core game mechanics don’t work flawlessly, like they should in a competitive shooter.

Every match that I play, I run into, at least one of the numerous bugs, and I look into the calendar and count the days to Fall 10th.

Frankly I have a lot more faith in Blizzard, as their games, while not necessarily well balanced, are at least very polished, and functional on core level.

(Ghosthree3) #32

I have faith in Blizzard pouring money into the game to make sure it grows. But I don’t have faith in them making a competitive non casual game.

(Jurmabones) #33

I have faith in Blizzard pouring money into the game to make sure it grows. But I don’t have faith in them making a competitive non casual game.[/quote]
The problem is Nexon/Splash Damage hasn’t done either of those things for their game. I like Dirty Bomb a lot, but we’d be kidding ourselves if we thought this game got a fraction of the developer/publisher support it needs/deserves to succeed as it should. It just happens to be fairly similar to RTCW/ET and relatively fun compared to most modern shooters which are slow and spammy. But being relatively fun isn’t going to be nearly enough when cheating is blatant and rampant.

Personally I will play this game until servers are completely dead, but that doesn’t mean a lot people will.

(omegaskorpion) #34

[quote=“srswizard;73741”]If you think Overwatch isn’t going to make a noticeable dent on DB’s playerbase, you’re delusional.
Pretty much all of the 15 or so people that I chat with, who are/have been playing Dirty Bomb, are looking forward to jumping onto Overwatch, and I’m ready to jump ships too.
The development of DB is dreadfully slow, and to this day, even the core game mechanics don’t work flawlessly, like they should in a competitive shooter.

Every match that I play, I run into, at least one of the numerous bugs, and I look into the calendar and count the days to Fall 10th.

Frankly I have a lot more faith in Blizzard, as their games, while not necessarily well balanced, are at least very polished, and functional on core level.[/quote]

Who who who, Hold you horses people… DB is not update fast enough? Da fuck?
We got updates almost every 2 weeks, fine tuning and mercs. Maps are coming.
What els do you want… 2 years of content in every week?

Games like Loadout didnt get updated in 2 months and it had still great player base.
But after they stopped updating after 6-10 months the player base started to drop from 10.000 to 15.

Warframe is updated in 1-3 weeks, usualy small updates that dont have much content (sometimes skins, sometimes new weapons, sometimes just bug fixes and those updates are very often) While big updates come in 2 months.

Planetside 2 is known for having extreamly slow updating and nothing special was made in 2 years. 2 FUK#NG years. And yet it still has lot of players.

TF2 has currenly painfully slow updating and updates usualy dont have anything besides hats and weapon skins now. Yet there are hundreds of players.

CS:GO does not realy get anything new (besides the weapon skin/community map updates)… and still everyone plays it.

The Development of dirty bomb is not realy that slow…

Also yes, Overwach will get players from dirty bomb and other similar games, even players that usualy dont play fps games will try it, because of interesting concepth.

However this does not mean that the players have to play one game.
Hell even i will try/play the overwach when it comes out but that sertainy does not mean that i or the others will stop playing other games.
It only meants that i will have more games to play. I will propably play them both. And so do many others.

Also dirty bomb is still in beta. When i comes out of beta it will propably have some fullgmae celebration lauch or someting that will bring more players. Not all players will stay but some will always come back to have fun and others will stay.
Unless developers make the infinite beta loop like warframe has now… yeah… its still in beta.
For no reason realy.

(Ghosthree3) #35

(Conqelson) #36

I’m pretty worried. It’s already hard to find decent servers late at night or early in the morning. Can’t believe I spent money on this sinking ship.

(Sterling) #37

Could be worse.

(Ghosthree3) #38

Even in Australia, the dead capital of the gaming world, there are servers 24/7. Though I’ve seen as few as a single server in the middle of the night.

(Amerika) #39

[quote=“srswizard;73741”]If you think Overwatch isn’t going to make a noticeable dent on DB’s playerbase, you’re delusional.
Pretty much all of the 15 or so people that I chat with, who are/have been playing Dirty Bomb, are looking forward to jumping onto Overwatch, and I’m ready to jump ships too.
The development of DB is dreadfully slow, and to this day, even the core game mechanics don’t work flawlessly, like they should in a competitive shooter.

Every match that I play, I run into, at least one of the numerous bugs, and I look into the calendar and count the days to Fall 10th.

Frankly I have a lot more faith in Blizzard, as their games, while not necessarily well balanced, are at least very polished, and functional on core level.[/quote]

If you think that same crowd won’t ride the hype train and then dump the game as soon as something doesn’t go their way then you are delusional. I’ve played with a number of people in that same boat in the past and they are all the same. They are the early hype players and then they leave. The ones who focus on tiny things and let those things drive them away. Like muzzle flash. I had a talk with a guy who had DB ruined for them because of muzzle flash. And not just because it blocked his screen but because he was convinced it dropped his FPS. He’s one of the people in that group you’re talking about.

Hell, even I did the same thing with ET. We dominated early ET and I moved on because the game didn’t really feel that competitive and felt unready for play as there were bugs and a bunch of oddities. Then ET went on to have a rather solid lifespan and is constantly talked about still today.

So you have to consider your crowd too. Am I going to play Overwatch? Yeah, I’ll try it. If I find that it’s too much like rock/paper/scissors TF2 or the gameplay is too simple I won’t be playing it long. And I’d wager a lot of people in that boat won’t also. The first few times that Gunslinger auto-kills half a team they will start to get enraged and then look for the next game.

SD definitely has a lot of cleanup work to do on DB. That’s for certain. But it’s getting to the point where soon it will only be cleanup work + new content as opposed to spending time on adding key features. It might be too late for your crowd of people but it won’t be for the thousands of people still left playing the game.

(Jurmabones) #40

I’m not having buyer’s remorse because I’ve got quite a lot of time into the game, it’s just more that I’m sad because of the huge potential the game has but the very obvious lack of proper development it’s receiving.

I feel like they are just riding out the easy short-term cash grab that Steam release can provide, and the game will die pretty soon after they release the last pre-made merc and don’t have the capability of doing a seemingly big update every 2 weeks.

I really want the game to succeed and grow but I feel like evidence to the contrary is mounting slowly each day.