Where can I report a hacker?

(Amerika) #21

[quote=“K1X455;196251”][quote=“Amerika”]… So you’ll always see cheaters in virtually every game. Which sucks. The most you can do is use the tools that are given to you in any game if you feel like it (reporting) and move on to another server and try not to let it bother you. And know that there are “waves” of cheating sometimes when a new cheat has been created and can’t be detected by the current system and these people will switch games based on which game has the newest undetected cheats so they can grief.

It’s a sad world where people have “fun” cheating or, worse, want to grief people who are trying to have a good time. And many just want to attention. But it’s the world we live in :([/quote]

Sadly, it’s the futility of reporting and surrendering to the authority without having known the fate of what difference it made besides “Fragger’s smug face”, because “policy of no naming and shaming”. This is the crux of system that will make and break the game, and it is probably why players leave and not return to the game anymore. I’m having a tough time convincing my friends to come back and play cause they just can’t muster the interest in being in this cycle of frustration.

Here’s proof: REMOVED

@asparagusMist this proves your point and SD/Nexon needs divert their attention again away to address a situation that can spiral out of control and bring the whole game down.
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So you completely missed the point of my post as to why the no naming and shaming policy is in place then proceed to violate the policy.

What do you think support does with reports? Also, if you have evidence that people aren’t being banned please submit it in a PM to myself or another mod ASAP. If you don’t have evidence then you’re riding pretty close to violating the forum FUD policy.

(K1X455) #22

[quote=“Amerika;196271”]
So you completely missed the point of my post as to why the no naming and shaming policy is in place then proceed to violate the policy.

What do you think support does with reports? Also, if you have evidence that people aren’t being banned please submit it in a PM to myself or another mod ASAP. If you don’t have evidence then you’re riding pretty close to violating the forum FUD policy.[/quote]

No.

I completely understand that damage can be done by someone who can pose a fake identity to discredit a player.

The question is: What is being done with the evidence submitted when such policies are in place. Smoke and mirrors, and as my proof swept without my knowledge of what was done with it, it just supports what asparagusMist claims, and what the hacker stated.

There is no wrong answer to this one. Just bad ones.

(Amerika) #23

[quote=“K1X455;196382”][quote=“Amerika;196271”]
So you completely missed the point of my post as to why the no naming and shaming policy is in place then proceed to violate the policy.

What do you think support does with reports? Also, if you have evidence that people aren’t being banned please submit it in a PM to myself or another mod ASAP. If you don’t have evidence then you’re riding pretty close to violating the forum FUD policy.[/quote]

No.

I completely understand that damage can be done by someone who can pose a fake identity to discredit a player.

The question is: What is being done with the evidence submitted when such policies are in place. Smoke and mirrors, and as my proof swept without my knowledge of what was done with it, it just supports what asparagusMist claims, and what the hacker stated.

There is no wrong answer to this one. Just bad ones.[/quote]

@K1X455 You aren’t notified when/if action is taken. That’s standard policy. What evidence do you have to make your claim that nothing is being done? I’ve asked others this in the past…please give me or another mod your evidence where you are 100% sure that nothing is being done to reported players. And we’d be happy to look into for you. If you don’t have any evidence and you’re simply trying to incite anger then you’re spreading what is known as fear, uncertainty and doubt. Which we have a rather strong rule against on this forum.

So please back up your claims with some shreds of evidence so that we don’t have to enforce any forum rules.

(K1X455) #24

[quote=“Amerika;196496”]

@K1X455 You aren’t notified when/if action is taken. That’s standard policy. What evidence do you have to make your claim that nothing is being done? I’ve asked others this in the past…please give me or another mod your evidence where you are 100% sure that nothing is being done to reported players. And we’d be happy to look into for you. If you don’t have any evidence and you’re simply trying to incite anger then you’re spreading what is known as fear, uncertainty and doubt. Which we have a rather strong rule against on this forum.

So please back up your claims with some shreds of evidence so that we don’t have to enforce any forum rules.[/quote]

You’re asking for proof of no action is being done? No bans are being made? I didn’t say anything like that. (Read my post again). Second, I am not inciting anger… or is it you that is angry? What I am asking is, what is being done to the submissions made by players, when policies are in place not to give feedback from the action of reporting someone who is using unfair advantage. The theoretical answer IS, they’re being looked at and acted upon behind the smoke and mirrors. It will forever be in theory because of policies in place. If you certainly want proof, why delete what I have submitted for the entire people to see? Is it because the evidence can be viewed and interpreted in several ways which can lead to uncertainty in the action being taken?

What I was pointing out in the picture is that players can blatantly circumvent the game’s defense and it becomes frustrating for legitimate players to take the “prescribed action” because their efforts are being acted upon behind smoke and mirrors. Did I submit something that will caused a violation of “no naming and shaming”? I get that the person using hacks has no shame at all. There’s no point of shaming him further, nor is it worth the effort at all to report him when the better alternative of leaving the game is there, cause he can just do the same thing over again and all that is accomplished is that developers’ attention get divided in their effort to keep the game in good raport with players. Even you yourself said that leaving the game and not letting it get to me is the best recourse. Unfortunately, the repeated cycle of “leaving the game” has caused a lot of my playing friends to “leave the game” and is no longer convinced of the credibility that “something is being done properly”. After all this time, hacks bad updates and patches, I’m still here playing. This is not how you treat the loyalty of good players.

Just accept the fact that there is no wrong answer to this; just bad ones (and you just made a big one yourself by sidestepping the question I asked). It sounds right, but it’s just bad.

(asparagusMist) #25

the real problem is its easier to cheat and get away with it than it is to succesfully report said cheater. this is where many game companies get it so wrong.

it should be the other way round.

if i try to report a player now through the correct procedure it will take me probably ten minutes of filling stuff out. 99.9 percent of people just think screw it.he will probably get banned anyway cause he was so blatant surely the anticheat will pick him up doing 100 kills in a game with only headshots !

so you go back ingame and if you play regular you come across players who you played with frequently and oh look its mr aimbot i reported ingame going 100-1 again.

you shouldnt have to jump hurdles to report blatant cheats.your more or less protecting cheating with how the anticheat system is set up.

i understand you need to make it so false reports or people who are innocent arent getting banned but its just so much hassle to report aimbots who are blatant that it isnt worth many peoples times to use the system that is in place to report.

so the system is the problem of getting those who cheat banned.then what happens when the cheats arent banned ? we come here rant about it show those people hacking in videos or whatever. so the sytstem needs to change your anticheat people need to get on the ball.

get on those cheat forums get the trainers ,multihacks look at them get them banned. its pretty simple.start becoming better.

(Amerika) #26

@asparagusMist I’ve filled out tons of cheat forms on the site. It does not take 10 minutes. Also, that is exactly what the NGS people do in regards to finding cheats. But it’s not as simple as you keep claiming it is and they aren’t sitting there eating donuts and drinking coffee all day. I’ve made huge posts detailing how this works in threads I know you’re a part of. Yet you refuse to accept that information that you could easily fact check, if you don’t believe me, with a bit of research.

I think this thread has ran it’s course and is now all about that fear, uncertainty and doubt and crusading without doing anything remotely close to fact checking. If you have details as to why people aren’t getting ban then submit them and I can try to do what I can, as a volunteer, to get them fixed. This is not a forum for you to sit at a podium and make claims like you do…especially considering knowing what I know.