When is the Phantom nerf finally comming?

(Jojack) #21

[quote=“titaniumCrouton;49427”][quote=“Jojack;49397”][quote=“titaniumCrouton;49383”]i hope it’s soon, not because i want him nerfed or think he even needs heavy nerfs. I want it because I want the community to see how trash most of them area. What I mean is, the nerfs are going to come, he will be considered ‘fixed’ by the devs and then: Nothing will change.

At all. Why? Because people are getting destroyed by the play style, not the merc. They can’t handle there lone wolf, yolo as fuck or “Sit on heal station all day” strats having a consistant counter that isn’t on a long ass cool down.

They will nerf him and nerf him and nothing will change because in the end, I can still flank you and I can still shoot you in the head and you will continue to bitch because the OP assassin, assassinated you.

So yeah. I look forward to nerfs o_o. Simply because I love putting people in there place…and I kinda wanna see the hilarious hate train keep going xP.[/quote]

Stop with the belittling. I can do it to.

“You suck and can’t aim so you play Phantom, a character that requires no skill or strategy and allows you to play your lone wolf, yolo as fuck playstyle that has no consistent counter and contributes diddly squat to your team. I can’t wait for Phantom to get nerfed so you go back to trolling the bottom of the leader boards and have no power to ‘put people in their place’. I can’t wait to feast on your salty tears.”

There now. Productive stuff. Thank you sir.[/quote]

Except your belitting makes no sense since I obviously would play AT LEAST two more mercs, even more not that you’d know. You also assume I actually play Phantom. Difference is I am not belittling someone as well, but a general group of people with actual fact.

Fact that will be proven in roughly a weeks time, depending on when they decide to patch. :slight_smile: So what I am saying actually is productive. It’s just not what you’d like to hear is all. [/quote]

Lol. We both assumed a number of things, probably mostly wrong. That was the point of my post. To show you how stupid it is to assume the worst in somebody’s motives and then construct an argument against those false assumptions making yourself look like an arrogant ass.

Your reaction proved my point nicely. Thanks again.

(titaniumCrouton) #22

[quote=“Jojack;49463”][quote=“titaniumCrouton;49427”][quote=“Jojack;49397”][quote=“titaniumCrouton;49383”]i hope it’s soon, not because i want him nerfed or think he even needs heavy nerfs. I want it because I want the community to see how trash most of them area. What I mean is, the nerfs are going to come, he will be considered ‘fixed’ by the devs and then: Nothing will change.

At all. Why? Because people are getting destroyed by the play style, not the merc. They can’t handle there lone wolf, yolo as fuck or “Sit on heal station all day” strats having a consistant counter that isn’t on a long ass cool down.

They will nerf him and nerf him and nothing will change because in the end, I can still flank you and I can still shoot you in the head and you will continue to bitch because the OP assassin, assassinated you.

So yeah. I look forward to nerfs o_o. Simply because I love putting people in there place…and I kinda wanna see the hilarious hate train keep going xP.[/quote]

Stop with the belittling. I can do it to.

“You suck and can’t aim so you play Phantom, a character that requires no skill or strategy and allows you to play your lone wolf, yolo as fuck playstyle that has no consistent counter and contributes diddly squat to your team. I can’t wait for Phantom to get nerfed so you go back to trolling the bottom of the leader boards and have no power to ‘put people in their place’. I can’t wait to feast on your salty tears.”

There now. Productive stuff. Thank you sir.[/quote]

Except your belitting makes no sense since I obviously would play AT LEAST two more mercs, even more not that you’d know. You also assume I actually play Phantom. Difference is I am not belittling someone as well, but a general group of people with actual fact.

Fact that will be proven in roughly a weeks time, depending on when they decide to patch. :slight_smile: So what I am saying actually is productive. It’s just not what you’d like to hear is all. [/quote]

Lol. We both assumed a number of things, probably mostly wrong. That was the point of my post. To show you how stupid it is to assume the worst in somebody’s motives and then construct an argument against those false assumptions making yourself look like an arrogant ass.

Your reaction proved my point nicely. Thanks again.
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Except my post doesn’t assume and action or a reaction, just the fact people need to adjust there play style, refuse to and get wrecked for it and will continue to get wrecked and those bad people will continue to complain about OP phantom because no amounts of nerfs will change that aspect of him.

Nothing I’ve said is an assumption is all based in fact, along with having the advantage of calling no one impaticular out, unlike you who did a direct attack onto me. Feel free to continue denying it but what I did was make an accurate statement, what you did was post a falsehood in attempt to attack.

(Jojack) #23

[quote=“titaniumCrouton;49478”][quote=“Jojack;49463”][quote=“titaniumCrouton;49427”][quote=“Jojack;49397”][quote=“titaniumCrouton;49383”]i hope it’s soon, not because i want him nerfed or think he even needs heavy nerfs. I want it because I want the community to see how trash most of them area. What I mean is, the nerfs are going to come, he will be considered ‘fixed’ by the devs and then: Nothing will change.

At all. Why? Because people are getting destroyed by the play style, not the merc. They can’t handle there lone wolf, yolo as fuck or “Sit on heal station all day” strats having a consistant counter that isn’t on a long ass cool down.

They will nerf him and nerf him and nothing will change because in the end, I can still flank you and I can still shoot you in the head and you will continue to bitch because the OP assassin, assassinated you.

So yeah. I look forward to nerfs o_o. Simply because I love putting people in there place…and I kinda wanna see the hilarious hate train keep going xP.[/quote]

Stop with the belittling. I can do it to.

“You suck and can’t aim so you play Phantom, a character that requires no skill or strategy and allows you to play your lone wolf, yolo as fuck playstyle that has no consistent counter and contributes diddly squat to your team. I can’t wait for Phantom to get nerfed so you go back to trolling the bottom of the leader boards and have no power to ‘put people in their place’. I can’t wait to feast on your salty tears.”

There now. Productive stuff. Thank you sir.[/quote]

Except your belitting makes no sense since I obviously would play AT LEAST two more mercs, even more not that you’d know. You also assume I actually play Phantom. Difference is I am not belittling someone as well, but a general group of people with actual fact.

Fact that will be proven in roughly a weeks time, depending on when they decide to patch. :slight_smile: So what I am saying actually is productive. It’s just not what you’d like to hear is all. [/quote]

Lol. We both assumed a number of things, probably mostly wrong. That was the point of my post. To show you how stupid it is to assume the worst in somebody’s motives and then construct an argument against those false assumptions making yourself look like an arrogant ass.

Your reaction proved my point nicely. Thanks again.
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Except my post doesn’t assume and action or a reaction, just the fact people need to adjust there play style, refuse to and get wrecked for it and will continue to get wrecked and those bad people will continue to complain about OP phantom because no amounts of nerfs will change that aspect of him.

Nothing I’ve said is an assumption is all based in fact, along with having the advantage of calling no one impaticular out, unlike you who did a direct attack onto me. Feel free to continue denying it but what I did was make an accurate statement, what you did was post a falsehood in attempt to attack.

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You’re post doesn’t assume? Let’s see.

I want it because I want the community to see how trash most of them area.

Here you are assuming the reason the community doesn’t like Phantom is because they get wrecked by him. Also, that they are all trash.

the nerfs are going to come, he will be considered ‘fixed’ by the devs and then: Nothing will change.

Here is an assumption followed by a prediction based off of previous assumptions.

Because people are getting destroyed by the play style, not the merc.

Another assumption that A)people are getting destroyed and B ) that’s why they hate Phantom. Also, you assume the manner in which they are getting destroyed.

They can’t handle there lone wolf, yolo as @$!# or “Sit on heal station all day” strats having a consistant counter that isn’t on a long ass cool down.

Again, another assumption that they can’t handle Phantom followed by an assumption about their play style.

They will nerf him and nerf him and nothing will change because in the end, I can still flank you and I can still shoot you in the head and you will continue to @$!# because the OP assassin, assassinated you.

A whole ball of bad assumptions.

Almost every single line in your post assumes something. And it’s all wadded into a huge pile of arrogance.

The post I’m replying to is pretty much all assumptions too, for what it’s worth.

(loonyTop) #24

Phantom players giving people shit about becoming good/learn to play is like racists telling people to be tolerant. Funnily enough, neither get the irony.

(watsyurdeal) #25

You’re really bringing racism into this? Wow

(jetJester) #26

That’s because those who ask nerf for phantom are either noobs or people with less than 30 hours, as i guess most of you are; and yeah i think he’s kinds fine as merc, his only problem is that his M2 is too rewarding without putting skill in it; yet i top scores with pretty much double points of second even without using phantom, do you think my point is now valid? because that’s what your message seem to say.

(viridianMiner) #27

[quote=“Roggan29;49430”]Phantom needs to be nerfed:

  • reduce damage from katana you get when attacked right to the face so that he needs more than one hit when you are slightly damaged
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Oh look, someone who doesn’t even know that all melee weapons one shot squishies with the melee aug. What a brilliant idea to make Phantom’s katana less good than regular melee weaps.

(BushDweller) #28

[quote=“viridianMiner;49635”][quote=“Roggan29;49430”]Phantom needs to be nerfed:

  • reduce damage from katana you get when attacked right to the face so that he needs more than one hit when you are slightly damaged
    [/quote]

Oh look, someone who doesn’t even know that all melee weapons one shot squishies with the melee aug. What a brilliant idea to make Phantom’s katana less good than regular melee weaps.[/quote]

The thing is, the katana requires ZERO skill. Once you right click, you just need to move the mouse around and it will hit whomever it touches in the first 3 seconds. Which is ridiculous.

(CCP115) #29

[quote=“Yak;49342”]They confirmed changes to Phantom and Aimpunch this week in the bugfix patch.

I personally don’t find phantoms hard to take care of anymore. Since I play Fletcher, and all phantoms charge you head on with their shields and don’t bother strafing, I just stick them twice and run, wait a few seconds, and blow them up.[/quote]

Quick ask, sorry for derailing, where was this stated? A stream?

Sometimes I feel so out of the loop, but I don’t watch the streams so that might be why.

(Parmenion) #30

There is a new merc this week or it’s just a fix for the last patch bullshit ?
Personnaly i prefer let phantom like he is and fix aim punck and have a new merc than fix aim punch and fix phantom. He don’t bother me, i prefer get killed by him, at least i have a counter play, than Vaseline, i can do nothing.

(Ctrix) #31

[quote=“extravagentBypass;49657”][quote=“Yak;49342”]They confirmed changes to Phantom and Aimpunch this week in the bugfix patch.

I personally don’t find phantoms hard to take care of anymore. Since I play Fletcher, and all phantoms charge you head on with their shields and don’t bother strafing, I just stick them twice and run, wait a few seconds, and blow them up.[/quote]

Quick ask, sorry for derailing, where was this stated? A stream?

Sometimes I feel so out of the loop, but I don’t watch the streams so that might be why.[/quote]
Lol, you’re the only one being on-topic :frowning:

(frolicsomeCrane) #32

As a headless chicken on crack I can agree that the only way to deal with a phantom once he melee’d you once is by double jumping off a wall and hopefully ending up behind him.

(BushDweller) #33

As a headless chicken on crack I can agree that the only way to deal with a phantom once he melee’d you once is by double jumping off a wall and hopefully ending up behind him.[/quote]

Thats what I do, works 80% of the time

(LANshark) #34

@extravagentBypass


here you go. the stream where they go over most of this stuff is the weekly Wednesday stream although there is some good stuff on the monday stream as well. The wednesday stream with exedore explains the design decisions behind phantom.

(Ctrix) #35

Why don’t they just make a blog post.

(CCP115) #36

Agreed with Ctrix, while streams are cool and all, America isn’t the only country in the world (or UK). Here in New Zealand, we’re ahead by so much that I can simply never watch streams unless they’re Australian. New Zealand streamers don’t exist, they’re just made up by the Illuminati (lol the forum suggested spelling for illuminati, it was just capitalised. Half life 3 confirmed?).

A blog post is a good read, and means I can read it when I want. I would also love to hear design decisions behind Phantom, that would be hilarious.