W:ET 2.55&2.60b fake slots in server list?

(Sedra12) #21

95.211.156.14
masterserver spoofing
disable /disconnect
same trick as the dutch server

(7Killer) #22

lol,
1 read and understood ET sdk, compile it and u may be able to make fake players things…
2 or work on a dedicated server, intercept the correct cmd which is send by server to master and fake it…

(acQu) #23

Maybe the “big guys” would come to the table and sign a mutual agreement to not use these thingys in future ? Would be great, but seeing how it is even possible to false flag server facades with fake clients i fear that would be senseless.

Seems only reason can help here. Maybe read some philosophical books or something ? :rolleyes:

(tjimboo) #24

no you cant prove it cause its just not true.

And as i said we removed our redirect server but if nobody else does why should we?
Cant be that hard to check the list once a week and ip ban servers that fake?

(elfradet) #25

I’m glad my topic made all of you a bit upset xD

So I’m gonne remove the possibility for my visitors to leave the server
by removing the /Quit and /disconnect, I will add 50 bots to it and make sure people are stuck there till they die!!!

Thanks for help!

(Just a bit of trolling over here, heheheh :D)

(kost3k) #26

10 minutes and I can show u a couple of these. U already have one or more examples in this topic…
I’m just wondering, if you even know what we’re talking about, lol. Waste of time.

(7Killer) #27

Well,

Maybe the “big guys” would come to the table and sign a mutual agreement to not use these thingys in future ? Would be great, but seeing how it is even possible to false flag server facades with fake clients i fear that would be senseless.

Seems only reason can help here. Maybe read some philosophical books or something ?

It has been try without sucess, it exists 2 ways

  1. Implements filter on client mod or in et executables files ( filter on mod will be on next n!tmod, and ET:L has make some too)
  2. OR ID has to update their master, i have proposed to help them because i have a filtered master code but they never contact myself in return…
(acQu) #28

No filter in the world is going to prevent me from giving you false info :slight_smile: To clarify: the filter you mean with ET:L was (as far as i saw, didn’t check last days) not getting any bs redirects by simply pressing ‘Play Online’. So if you are not connected to a server and are part of the server discovery process (getting the list from master, sending out info probes to every server) you can’t get redirected. That was the ET:L fix. N!tmod ? Well, you can always hide behind close source and claim your solution is the best. I am pretty sure that it is only a half solution and terribly flawed. Feel free to send over a PM to ET:L (drama inc :penguin: :D), i would be interested too, as i am not always in their IRC to get the latest news :wink:

Just some more: what we are dealing here in this thread is false inforesponse and (potentially statusresponse) packets. Not the thingy where you get redirected by clicking ‘Play Online’. And here you can not create a filter which is working good enough. I can always give you fake infos as long as i live and you will not be able to check it unless you connect to the server directly or create a humanly made blacklist and sync with the mod. Anyway, just my two cents. Maybe you have a good trick i didn’t think about. I didn’t give this much thought anyway. Getting a bit tired of this …

(Radegast) #29

It is like you say, acqu.

[QUOTE=7Killer;425845]Well,
2. OR ID has to update their master, i have proposed to help them because i have a filtered master code but they never contact myself in return…[/QUOTE]
Me too :slight_smile: and they also haven’t replied to me.

(Sedra12) #30

what about making ET fork which has its own masterserver and binaries verification to allow official fork releases only to connect
remove autoredirect ,make hardoced or locked ui and create a clean ET environment independent from ID infrastructure
i think there is a project aiming to create a distributable pak0.pk3 ,the only true restrcition to making a standalone ET fork
@7killer where can we test your new n!tmod filter? is there any test server?

(morsik) #31

Sedra12: there is already ET:Legacy.
We have already motd server, and updates server. Master server in progress… many fixes in client and server. Still few bugs…

And… binaries verification is REALLY BAD in open source.

(7Killer) #32

i can always give you fake infos as long as i live and you will not be able to check it unless you connect to the server directly or create a humanly made blacklist and sync with the mod

humanized automatic filter, that s why i worked and proposed…but put the code on the public place mean give you the solution to send me fake info…

(7Killer) #33

7killer where can we test your new n!tmod filter? is there any test server?

it ll be release as soon we can, i have to work in true life too :wink:

(7Killer) #34

QUOTE]what we are dealing here in this thread is false inforesponse and (potentially statusresponse) packets.
[[/QUOTE]
well, seems be a goof beginning for filtering, u can always try to connect on the server and analysed the response, i m sure u know what contains a redirection cmd string :wink:

(nonoMapper) #35

[QUOTE=Sedra12;426103]what about making ET fork which has its own masterserver and binaries verification to allow official fork releases only to connect
remove autoredirect ,make hardoced or locked ui and create a clean ET environment independent from ID infrastructure
i think there is a project aiming to create a distributable pak0.pk3 ,the only true restrcition to making a standalone ET fork
[/QUOTE]
I think you mean etizb sedra :slight_smile: