A couple more SMGs:
Blishlok: Something between the Kriss Vector and the Thompson.
Crotzni: I’m pretty sure the Crotzni has AK-74 heritage, due to the safety lever seen n the right side of the gun and the wire stock, but I have no idea what the rest of it is.
how about u dont be such a dick?
he doesnt have to show you anything. he using his own time, and he can do whatever guns he like.[/quote]
How about you mind your business? I stated what I would like to see and the OP responded that they weren’t done posting yet.
Anyways, I didn’t realize so many of these guns were based on real guns or just renamed.
I’m really curious what the KEK-10 is based off of. At first glance you’d probably say the standard MP5. However, Like the Crotzni (based off the AK-74U) it uses a magazine visually identical to the Timik-47. This leads me to believe that the KEK-10 is in fact a carbine rifle. Some of you may remember the AK-74U from CoD4, where it was classed as a SMG, however it is in fact a carbine rifle as well, firing rifle rounds instead of pistol rounds.
Blishlok/Kriss Vector
Couldn’t tell you much about the real world weapon, other than it, to me, seems like the next evolution of the UMP-45. It has a blistering rate of fire, which it’s in game counter part is sorely lacking. It also fires a .45 ACP round, just like the UMP-45. In game, the Blishlok appears to also be chambered for the .45 ACP considering it’s the highest damage SMG in the game.
MP 400/Tec-9
http://takeaimguns.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/016.jpg
Caulden/M1911A1/M45A1
Of note, the M45A1 is simply the modernized version of the 20th century M1911A1 originally invented by John Browning.
Mk46/M249
I’d like to point out that, while the in game Mk46 Is most similarly modeled after the M249, the M249 has two USSOCOM variants that are of interest. They are the Mk 46 and Mk 48. Both variants are essentially identical to the basic M249 with the exception that most of its added features are removed (such as the carry handel and vehicle mounting lugs) in order to save weight. The Mk 48 is the same as the Mk 46, with the exception that it is chambered for the 7.62x51mm NATO round instead of the 5.56x45mm NATO round like the basic M249 and Mk 46
[quote=“inscrutableShow;181604”]A couple more SMGs:
Blishlok: Something between the Kriss Vector and the Thompson.
Crotzni: I’m pretty sure the Crotzni has AK-74 heritage, due to the safety lever seen n the right side of the gun and the wire stock, but I have no idea what the rest of it is.
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Actually Crotzni is more to the side of AKS-74 “Krinkov” modern Krinkov.
the front part of crotzni seems to be a more modern handguard and better muzzle
The rifle first saw service with Soviet forces engaged in the 1979 Afghanistan conflict. The head of the Afghan bureau of the Pakistani Inter-Services Intelligence claimed that the CIA paid $5,000 for the first AK-74 captured by the mujahadeen during the Soviet–Afghan War.
eveloped in the early 1970s by Russian designer Mikhail Kalashnikov as the replacement for the earlier AKM (itself a refined version of the AK-47). It uses a smaller 5.45×39mm cartridge, replacing the 7.62×39mm chambering of earlier Kalashnikov-pattern weapons.
because accuracy and stability is better than damage.
(woodstock is waaaay better than wire stock. it hurts when you shoot)
It’s the PTR-32, and is actually a carbine, so in the same technical class as the M4A1. Which could be why it’s so good…
It’s the PTR-32, and is actually a carbine, so in the same technical class as the M4A1. Which could be why it’s so good…[/quote]
The PTR-32 is one sexy looking gun. I wish we had the wood furniture in DB like pic related.
http://www.hkpro.com/image/hk32proto.jpg
It’s the PTR-32, and is actually a carbine, so in the same technical class as the M4A1. Which could be why it’s so good…[/quote]
The PTR-32 is one sexy looking gun. I wish we had the wood furniture in DB like pic related.
http://www.hkpro.com/image/hk32proto.jpg[/quote]
i thought kek 10 is one of the full auto variant of G3 carbine pattern rifle.
and i thought bamboo does looked like wood furniture right?
(im collecting all the gold bamboo. that sexy ass br bamboo is just making me hrmmm…)
i just googled and ptr32 2nd gen (the Kek-10) actually accepts 7.62 mag from AK47.
that thing is a beast.
you shoot 7.62/.308 win you can feel the gun kicking your shoulder and bushwacker fire that gun from the hip?
madness…
just googled again. that picture and the gun is actually HK32.
Kek-10 is HK32
PTR 32 is clone of HK32.
i just googled and ptr32 2nd gen (the Kek-10) actually accepts 7.62 mag from AK47.
that thing is a beast.
you shoot 7.62/.308 win you can feel the gun kicking your shoulder and bushwacker fire that gun from the hip?
madness…
7.62x39 is not .308 Win (which is 7.62x51) even if it is the same caliber. Just like a .50AE is not the same as a .50BMG.
The thing about HK32/PTR32 and all the other variants are, that they basically are all the same action (roller-delayed blowback) but scaled to different cartridges and DB features alot of the same weapon family.
Hochfir, KEK10, PDP, Dreiss are all based of the same design principle in different sizes.
Like you said, the PTR32 is a clone of the HK32, but the picture you posted is basically the same gun, just with a different handguard, it just looks really different because the plastic handguard goes further back to the magazine.
btw. the Dreiss is probably more of an HK33 than a HK91(G3), because of the magazine curvature, but you can’t really tell for sure, as too many design features on the dreiss are either removed or different from any existent HK pattern rifle.
[quote=“hypnotoad;181984”]
i just googled and ptr32 2nd gen (the Kek-10) actually accepts 7.62 mag from AK47.
that thing is a beast.
you shoot 7.62/.308 win you can feel the gun kicking your shoulder and bushwacker fire that gun from the hip?
madness…
7.62x39 is not .308 Win (which is 7.62x51) even if it is the same caliber. Just like a .50AE is not the same as a .50BMG.
The thing about HK32/PTR32 and all the other variants are, that they basically are all the same action (roller-delayed blowback) but scaled to different cartridges and DB features alot of the same weapon family.
Hochfir, KEK10, PDP, Dreiss are all based of the same design principle in different sizes.
Like you said, the PTR32 is a clone of the HK32, but the picture you posted is basically the same gun, just with a different handguard, it just looks really different because the plastic handguard goes further back to the magazine.
btw. the Dreiss is probably more of an HK33 than a HK91(G3), because of the magazine curvature, but you can’t really tell for sure, as too many design features on the dreiss are either removed or different from any existent HK pattern rifle.[/quote]
i think the one with wood furniture is the prototype.(like ar-10)
the HK32 is the one with full cover.
what i just learned from google, 7.62 and .308 are interchangeable by barrel but not the magazine.
but there are mags that support both kinds of rounds.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=wss_sapVejU
in that video that guy using 308 for what people think is a 7.62 rifle.
you can use 7.62 in a 308 just like you can use 223 in a 5.56 but NOT in reverse.
7.62x51 is interchangeable with .308Win but NOT with 7.62x39 which is the cartridge the hk32 uses.
Just like 5.56x45 is interchangeable with .223 but is NOT with .22LR(5.6x15R) even if all of them feature the same bullet diameter of .223 inches.
There is a clear distinction between calibers (the bore axis) and the cartridge (the whole package). The problem you run in is, that people use calibers to refer to cartridges but those can have different meanings.
Edit: I’ll include pictures when I’m home.
[quote=“hypnotoad;182110”]7.62x51 is interchangeable with .308Win but NOT with 7.62x39 which is the cartridge the hk32 uses.
Just like 5.56x45 is interchangeable with .223 but is NOT with .22LR(5.6x15R) even if all of them feature the same bullet diameter of .223 inches.
There is a clear distinction between calibers (the bore axis) and the cartridge (the whole package). The problem you run in is, that people use calibers to refer to cartridges but those can have different meanings.
Edit: I’ll include pictures when I’m home.[/quote]
hurry home…
i need that sniff snort
shiver
picture…
This is getting a little silly. It seemed informative, but when they said that the MK46 =/= the Mark 46, I gave up.
@inscrutableShow Kalishnakovs are a very wide and varied family of weapon. Just dismissing different models is like saying the M16, M4, and SR-25 are all just AR-15 models and need no further categorization.
This thread died, unfortunately, but I’m gonna clean up the remaining weapons that haven’t been identified yet, as well as a couple of abilities and the katana.
Nader’s grenade launcher, the Lactic 40: Milkor MGL (MILKor? LACTIC? Get it?)
As far as I could find, there is only one real life minigun, but it is fired from a mount, and looks nothing like Rhino’s minigun. Therefore, Rhino’s minigun is a work of fiction.
Tolen MP: MP5K. The MP5K is a short version of the MP5, which is what the Hochfir is based off of.
M9: Sig Sauer P226
Simeon .357: Smith and Wesson M&P R8
The Katana is actually a ninjato, which was never a Japanese weapon at all, but merely a Hollywood invention, since apparently it’s easier to film a sword with a straight blade. Real katanas have curved blades.
This is the latest in a long line of weapon identification threads, but I think this one is the best so far. This thread has now identified every firearm in the game except the Remburg-7, as well as two merc abilities.
Special thanks to @Cuck (Who unfortunately has since gotten himself banned) for starting this thread, and identifying the MOA SNPR-1, which had previously eluded us. Also a thank you to everybody else that contributed to this thread.
