Simple mistakes in Brink that can be fixed.

(Limpinator) #21

How exactly does more levels make the game better?

It dosent make it better. It just makes the game experience last longer

(dajfactor) #22

Plus the game doesn’t really “start” until level 20 imo. some of those rank 5 abilities have the potential to be a game changer (revive grenade)

(fearlessfox) #23

[QUOTE=Limpinator;303641]But once your level 20 there is NO REASON to keep playing.
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Not all of us need a carrot dangled in front of us to run.

The game is fine as it is. In fact, it’s perfect. Why?

the initial burst of excitement that comes with earning upgrades and levels and skills helps you really throw yourself into the challenges and modes an actually learn to play the game well. This prepares you perfectly for the entire reason for Brink’s existence: MP.

Farming XP in an FPS just serves as a distraction. Brink has the balance just right.

(Limpinator) #24

I dont think Brink has the balance right at all. And just so you all know im already max level and those “Game Changer Abilities” are cool and all but its still the same game we know and love.

How is it balanced when you are already a max level when the game came out 3 days ago? If you ask me thats really pathetic.

(deathzero34) #25

The lobbies/Multiplayer modes
-Could probably be change to something more user/group friendly.

Stats
-like most people said in the tread, I really doubt they forgot about stats. Stats doesn’t serve much purpose in the game. The stat are not a good way of measuring your effectiveness considering the team base this game require. Are they interesting? Sure sometime, but most of the time people start fixating on them and forgetting about the game.
(E PEEN CONTEST)

Lag Lag Lag

  • I have the PC version I can T really comment. Although maybe id trade my graphic bug for your lag.

Ranking
-I find this part hilarious. Ranking doesn’t server any purpose and it should STAY like that. The whole prestige system is a completely artificial way of extending the life of a game.
If your so hell bent on wanting prestige here something you can do. Each time you get max level delete your character and start anew. Then take a little star sticker and scotch it to your screen.
NO REASON to keep playing. Having FUN in a game is usually why you would want to keep playing…

Unlockables/Customization
-Ill agree with the customization part. It could use a lot more variant etc. For the gun mods, I think its fine as it is.

(MisterGee) #26

Sorry OP, but I think K/D ratios is the worst thing to happen to FPS since well anything. People get so hung up on it, and only play for themselves (for people who care about it).

The rest of it, levels unlocks do give you something to aim for, but in IMHO are really wrong these days. For a game like this it’s all about using the right tools in the right situation, rather than being crippled because at the start the engineer doesn’t even have turrets!!!

MP games should give all the kit ASAP and not earned (remembering that drip feeding was so u don’t get overwhelmed at the start). They should then just have endless levels for people who care about them - again IMHO

Personally I’m pretty sick of playing games and not getting kit because I don’t have TIME to earn them (lets face it levels, rank and unlocks have NOTHING to do with skill and everything to do with time spent in game)

OP you are right about server joining etc, this should be like a normal MP game

Personally the only change I’d like to see are less grenades, constant grenades in tight spaces is just no fun (even the bots launch them constantly)… two per life no recharge except at bases would be a start

Great game and feel through… awesome potential

(indirect) #27

[QUOTE=Limpinator;303834]Yeah man. And for the record I do see were your comming from on all your points. And sure you can keep the objective based stuff. But more variority is all im asking for.

But to anwser your question the perstige system works like this. I will use the COD BO system
In COD BO
The max level is 50.
So when you get to 50 you have the option to “prestige”
That means you can start ALL over again to level 1 but you get a little symbol next to your rank showing you how many times you have prestiged. And you can only prestige 15 times. After 15 you cant any more…
So if you add it all together that means if you want to max out you will have to rank up 750 times!

Also when you prestige you lose all your wepons and everything and you have to earn it again. The only thing you would keep is your stats.[/QUOTE]

You have 10 character slots, theres your 10 prestige levels.

(Limpinator) #28

You have 10 character slots, theres your 10 prestige levels.

Im not sayin to have a perstige system exactly. I just want more levels. Like why not make the max level 50? Or something. Or hell fine make it 20. But you should have it that it takes FOREVER to rank up…

And making another character is just a poor excuse for them not adding levels.

AND THIS GOES TO ANYONE WHO MAKES A NEW CHARACTER!
When you make a new character I guartenee this is whats happening in your mind right here.

“Man this game is great…But I wish there was something else I can do. I mean I already unlocked EVERYTHING and now there is nothing to unlock. All i got now is the laggy multiplayer…”

“OHH wait I know! Ill make another character and this time ill change his looks and make him a maxed out medic, and the other a maxed out operative…ect.”

If you ask me that right there is just sad. That is lazy for the developers to just not make enough ranks in the game for those kind of people. IF YOU MAKE A NEW CHARACTER you are proving my point of more ranks would be a good thing. If not good for you. Im not making fun of anyones opinion here im just stating mine.

(Broo20) #29

I would also like it if you could use a sidearm while hacking, it would make it a bit easier and stop the Attackers from getting choked to hell.

Also, that choke point in Aquarium needs to be sorted out (The one in the canteen/Cafe), because it’s nigh impossible to get the hostage through.

(Broo20) #30

I would also like the level cap to be raised, I hit it within 18 hours of playing.

Also, need more customization options, there’s just not enough that looks good.

(peteXnasty) #31

Why is everyone addicted to levelling up

I want all my skills and I want to shoot people. Not at progress quest. Not to play a game for 18 days worth of in game time and NOT be at the rank I need for the kool golden guns. Why do you need a progress bar to enjoy a game?

Why not respec and try a new build? Make a new character? Or maybe just play the game?

Someone in another thread said it best; he’s been stuck at rank 1 in quake 3 for years but still loves it

(X Trigger I) #32

I agree with lobbies or party system for MP (Console).
Lag/rubber banding is shocking for a MP only game.
Ranking i don’t mind, i got bored of prestiging on cod and opted to keep my guns. I played COD4 for 20+ days and didn’t reach the top prestige, i got to that fuzzy eye monster emblem :stuck_out_tongue: it gets boring, i play because of the gameplay not the ranking up.
I’m happy with the objective missions, same as i liked it in ETQW.

(lucayo) #33

i total agree to you Limpinator
in all aspects i played cod, tf2, bfbc2, halo, etc …
and i have to say i really miss other game modes… and i think if game modes like tdm search n destroy were added more players would love to play the game
and the set up of cod is the best with the groups and lobbies
brink is a great game, but more game modes are missing thats the point
i just can recommend to you to add other game modes because it will be boring if you are lvl 20 have reached evrything and there are no other game modes

(deathzero34) #34

I still don’t understand the prestige idea. Tell me if I get this right. You want the game to add an extra 20ish level for absolutely no reason other then putting level 40 on your character page?

Also to whoever said TDM, no, just no.

(Shanks) #35

[QUOTE=Limpinator;305377]Im not sayin to have a perstige system exactly. I just want more levels. Like why not make the max level 50? Or something. Or hell fine make it 20. But you should have it that it takes FOREVER to rank up…

And making another character is just a poor excuse for them not adding levels.

AND THIS GOES TO ANYONE WHO MAKES A NEW CHARACTER!
When you make a new character I guartenee this is whats happening in your mind right here.

“Man this game is great…But I wish there was something else I can do. I mean I already unlocked EVERYTHING and now there is nothing to unlock. All i got now is the laggy multiplayer…”

“OHH wait I know! Ill make another character and this time ill change his looks and make him a maxed out medic, and the other a maxed out operative…ect.”

If you ask me that right there is just sad. That is lazy for the developers to just not make enough ranks in the game for those kind of people. IF YOU MAKE A NEW CHARACTER you are proving my point of more ranks would be a good thing. If not good for you. Im not making fun of anyones opinion here im just stating mine.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Limpinator;303834]Yeah man. And for the record I do see were your comming from on all your points. And sure you can keep the objective based stuff. But more variority is all im asking for.

But to anwser your question the perstige system works like this. I will use the COD BO system
In COD BO
The max level is 50.
So when you get to 50 you have the option to “prestige”
That means you can start ALL over again to level 1 but you get a little symbol next to your rank showing you how many times you have prestiged. And you can only prestige 15 times. After 15 you cant any more…
So if you add it all together that means if you want to max out you will have to rank up 750 times!

Also when you prestige you lose all your wepons and everything and you have to earn it again. The only thing you would keep is your stats.[/QUOTE]

The only real difference I see is that you don’t have stats to brag about. You’re complaining about something that your beloved CoD has and you even talk so highly about. Ummm…what?

(Shotgun Surgeon) #36

Stats: Want to know one major difference between BRINK and COD? There’s no emphasis on individualism. There are Awards that tell you who was the best medic, best engineer, etc… but that requires you to work as a team. Because people tend obsess over their KDR (including me) I think it’s best they took it out. Let me draw up a scenario for you –

– In COD, my team can lose but I wouldn’t care because I got more kills than deaths. Even in objective games like CTF, people play it like a deathmatch because no one wants to risk a “pointless death” by going for the objective. It doesn’t matter if the team wins because KDR is all that matters.
– In BRINK, I can die hundreds of times and have only 2 kills but that’s ok because that 100 times is because I was helping my team push our VIP to the LZ even though it was inch by inch because the defense was heavily (and tactically) fortified. Because there’s no KDR for people to obsess over, there’s only one clear objective: Winning or Losing.

Ranking: I’m going to make this shorter than the previous point. Once you’re level 20, the reason to keep playing is for fun. I know that you kids have 100000 levels of prestige in your COD games. I think it’s pathetic how games have to add levels and prestige levels and unlocks just to keep people from being bored. A good game gets players addicted because of the GAMEPLAY, not because of the unlocks (See: Counter-Strike)

(dajfactor) #37

[QUOTE=Limpinator;304564]I dont think Brink has the balance right at all. And just so you all know im already max level and those “Game Changer Abilities” are cool and all but its still the same game we know and love.

How is it balanced when you are already a max level when the game came out 3 days ago? If you ask me thats really pathetic.[/QUOTE]

Also look at the classics… CS, TF 1&2, Q3 Arena, UT, etc…all have no “ranking” system, and yet they are fantastic games. Game’s worth should not be decided by some arbitrary max level.

(Shotgun Surgeon) #38

And that’s how you can tell the difference between younger gamers and older gamers. Even gamers back in the days of UT and CS cared about the objective even though they were obsessed with their KDR. Nowadays, these younger gamers don’t about the objectives all they want to do is get higher than 1.5 KDR and to level up 5000505050 times.

(Limpinator) #39

And that’s how you can tell the difference between younger gamers and older gamers. Even gamers back in the days of UT and CS cared about the objective even though they were obsessed with their KDR. Nowadays, these younger gamers don’t about the objectives all they want to do is get higher than 1.5 KDR and to level up 5000505050 times.

No no im 18 years old man. And for everyone to know. I do see what you are all saying. I really dident look at it like Counter Strike or TF2…I love those games and I come back to play every now and then.

But the only reason why I want a higher ranking system is cause its there. CS never had 1. And neither does TF2. So you cant complain. If you are gonna put a ranking system then fine max out all your skills at 20. But then just have rankings after that just for fun. just to show how much you play the game. Like Gears of War…Ranking dident unlock anything in the game but it was just there for fun.

So why not first 20 levels you unlock stuff and after that you rank up just for fun, dont just stop at 20…I see no harm in that…

And as for the K/D. I like it there so i know how good I do. I mean if I see it go up I know I improve on skill level. And if experience goes up I improve in the team level. So why not have both of them up there?

And becides its kinda hard to do the lone soldier stuff in this game anyways. And camping is out of the question also…So really people can go ahead and try to camp like in COD but it wont get them ANYWHERE.