Server Browser Servers - Skill Balance


(Ptiloui) #21

@stayfreshshoe said:
As for Server Browser (SB), it’s inherently floored due to the ease of it becoming unbalanced. In an ideal world, all players would be using CMM. A decent chunk of players consistently use SB and if they were to move across to CMM queues would be shorter and matches better balanced (spread the word). Our focus to solve this still falls to commercial release (or 1.0 release of DB) as with this there will be marketing and a ton of new players coming to the game.

In past fps games (including ET), CMM didn’t exist at all. We only had server browser and i can’t recall all this “whine” about unbalanced games. Sure, there were games that were clearly unbalanced, in both ways, but we lived with that and today we’re still playing multiplayer fps games.

CMM may solve the balance problem, but it will delete the community part. In a server browser mode, people join a server and plays several games on the same server, with same people. Social link are created and some friendship is born. People may even tend to join the same server over days because they try to play with the same other players if they enjoyed it. Even further, some community may create themselves among some servers (look at actual rented servers or min lvl servers).
In CMM, you play once, gg and bye. You don’t even have any time to chat with people (except during the game) because people usually start another research right after the end.


(Begin2018) #22

@stayfreshshoe said: […] Our focus to solve this still falls to commercial release (or 1.0 release of DB) as with this there will be marketing and a ton of new players coming to the game.
You will have ton of players… level 1. Then it won’t solve anything for players level 30+!
IT’S URGENT TO GIVE US MIN LEVEL 30 8v8 SERVERS or this game will be totally dead before the end of 2018.


The issue isn’t the lacks of marketing, v1.0 won’t change anything, it’s just blabla.


(ThePigVomit) #23

You’re mistake is in thinking levels have anything significant to do with performance in a free to smurf game…


(rosskii) #24

@stayfreshshoe said:
Sounds like a cool idea (re-naming servers depending on the player pool). I don’t think this is possible for us, but I’ve passed the idea on to the server team to check out.

As for Server Browser (SB), it’s inherently floored due to the ease of it becoming unbalanced. In an ideal world, all players would be using CMM. A decent chunk of players consistently use SB and if they were to move across to CMM queues would be shorter and matches better balanced (spread the word). Our focus to solve this still falls to commercial release (or 1.0 release of DB) as with this there will be marketing and a ton of new players coming to the game.

I would play CMM but I dont because its only half a match. For me theres no point playing this because if I am defending then the entire match is not fun for me. In the past when it was called “objective” I only played it for 2 reasons. 1. was because of missions, and 2. because you could have 8v8 and it was more insane. I would rather CMM was a 2 sided match, but I appreciate it needs to be different somehow from ranked mode I guess? Then in theory you could remove the server browser, but if you are renting servers in the future then people will still need to use it. In which case how do you look at balance then? for the rented servers? Even if you changed the icon and text-color of a server to (e.g. cobalt), you dont really have to restrict it (but it would be nice). You could just warn low ranks that its Extreme hard difficulty. Because most new players joining games would probably not click “yes” if they knew it had high skilled players on there. If they play against other new players then the probability of them wanting to play the game again another time is SO MUCH HIGHER… Im taking a break from this game for the moment, I’ll come back at some point and see if I still have a passion for the game. I really wish this was as popular as csgo, because its clearly better. Just I feel tier’s on servers is the only thing missing. 4 tiers, cobalt, gold, silver and bronze. It would also add a little bit of “game progression”, players feeling a sence of achievement to find out they are now good enough to play in the next tier of servers. “OOOOHhhhh im gold yay”, then get rekt there and demote back to silver. I would have loved that if I just started playing. Then finally reach Cobalt and see “oh this is what it feels like to play the best players”. Then you have real matches, real medics, real DPS ammo giving EV destroying try hards… yes please they can come my team ty wp gg