RTCWFiles MOD BAN!!

(jet Pilot) #21

As I understand it, as long as you create the content you’re fine (even if you’re imitating someone else’s work). An example of this is ETPro’s duplication of the Q3Arena hitsounds, and ETPub’s further duplication of ETPro’s. If you really love the quotes from movies, record yourself saying them, or get someone else to do it. I’m fortunate in that my clan has a very large community base full of very talented people, including modelers, mappers, and sound gurus. I’ve made it clear that I want only original material, or material with full permissions. There are many web-based communities of budding game designers who may be willing to provide some work for free, just to get their name in some credits somewhere.

I’m not too sure about the sounds from the Star-Wars mod, but as I understand it the models have all been done from scratch. Imitation is not illegal. Directly copying is. The Star-Wars mod is further questionable just by it’s name. The name ‘Star-Wars’ is copyrighted, or trademarked, or both. Perhaps changing the name to Star-Battles or something would clear up any questionable issues. (An example of what I’m talking about is Palladium Book’s RPG NightSpawn. Apparently the name NightSpawn was owned by a comic book company (the one that owns Spawn) that threatened lawuit unless Palladium changed the name. Palladium complied, and changed the name to Nightbane, and all threats were dropped. )

(P4nth3r) #22

I understand that there is a lot of beef with any illegal content.
But just for fun, check how many mods they added the last month are posted compared to maps (this used to be the other way around)

So, saying that this won’t hurt the mod comunitie is a lie.

Maybe I should start my own freakin site with ET & RTCW mods?? =S
Let me know if people would like this

Greetz Panther aka Way2Evil

(EB) #23

I am curious, what mod did you make ? What was the content ?

on topic:
— If it hurts the half-assed modding with stolen material community then I am proud of that fact that no one will host their files.

Here comes some real sarcasm >>>>>
[Sarcasm] I’d rather have it that a new site would host the files…that way…they’d be sued and we’d know all of the names of the L4M3 M0dd3R5 so that we can take discourse for OUR stolen materials as well. [sarcasm]
End sarcasm

[sincere]
It is about mutual respect.
[/sincere]

(P4nth3r) #24

What mod I did I make? I now only made 6 soundpacks!
Ok here comes (btw I do not rip from other mods)

  1. Predator Soundpack - Adds predator sounds from AvsP2 to the quickchat (It is on rtcwfiles.com) (Fox will sew their ass if they find out, NOT)

  2. Blood Soundpack - Adds Calebs voice from Blood 1 & 2 to the quickchat (It’s on rtcwfiles.com) (Lithtech will sew their ass, rightttt…)

  3. Shadow Warrior Soundpack - Adds Lo Wangs voice from Shadow Warrior to the quickchat (It’s on rtcwfiles.com) (3d Realms will sew their ass. LOL)

  4. Duke Nukem Soundpack - Adds Duke’s voice from Duke 3d & Manhattan to the quickchat (Yes, that too is on rtcwfiles.com and also owned by 3d realms)

  5. Worms Soundpack - Adds a bunch of worms voices to the quickchat. (Denied on rtcwfiles.com) (They must be scared of Team 17)

  6. Cadence Soundpack - Adds a few Cadences to the quickchat menu from the movies: Full Metal Jackat, Sgt Bilko & Heartbreak Ridge (haven’t tracked who ownes all those)

Just to be clear, taking samples from movies isn’t illegal I think. (there are millions songs out there that use samples from movies (So did I when I still composed my music) So why they banned that one isn’t really clear to me.

That’s it for now, but if nobody likes it and it won’t be uploaded anywhere then I probably won’t make any new,

Greetz Panther aka Way2Evil

(P4nth3r) #25

To make things fun I send a mail to Team 17 asking premission for my soundpack.
I they agree (if they do reply anywayz) then I hope my soundpack will be posted.
If not,… well then we will see.

Greetz Panther aka Way2Evil

(bacon) #26

Actually it is. Everything in the movie is copywritten and thus is illegal to use it out of context. There’s even that no duplication etc message before every movie.
Most songs have permission to use the samples while others pay royalties.

(carnage) #27

if the movie is show on TV u are alowed to record 30 seconds of sound of video. but thats not alot for a soundpack

btw, we no ur upset but lets put an end to it now. it done and we cant do anything about. look on the bright side that we might now see modders create brand new original ideas and concepts

(ikanatto) #28

We have ET and its source code and our various ideas here. There are still many things we can do with avoiding the copyright problems. Let us just have fun :smiley:

(carnage) #29

We have ET and its source code and our various ideas here. There are still many things we can do with avoiding the copyright problems. Let us just have fun

yeah :clap: we all focus on what wrong with modding were forgeting whats so right about it… and thats… :bored:

…

:beer:

(Jaquboss) #30

Where is Wils ? I love when he locks pointless threads like this one :nag:

(IneQuation) #31

That’s funny, Jaquboss, I was about to write a request for closing this topic. :slight_smile:

(Snoman) #32

Actually fellas, if you are a student, you are covered, if the clips are less than 30 seconds technically you do not have to pay royalties, especially if you are a student, BUT the big requirement here is, that you MUST give credit. I am a film student, I can’t possibly tell you how many of my edits contain (a) copyrighted music (b) copyrighted video or © objects that are similar to but not the same as copyrighted material. No lawyers have come knocking on my door, and these have been “broadcast to the masses with out explicit written permission”

(bani) #33

this thread really needs to be

(carnage) #34

no1 is poosting in it other than to just say it should be locked… just shut and solve you own problem

(P4nth3r) #35

Fine, lock it if you need to, but just because YOU don’t post in it or like it, should NOT be the reason.

Greetz Panther

(jet Pilot) #36

Why should this thread be locked? Aside from a bit of flaming, there is some useful information here. If it helps encourage people to create their own content, it’s well worth it. If it helps keep the mod sites we love from getting sued, even better.

(SCDS_reyalP) #37

Do you have a source for that ? There are certain situations where you can use peoples works without permission (satire and criticism are generally protected) but I’ve never heard of anything special for students. Sampling (for music) has been the subject of a number of ugly legal battles, and I’m not sure where it currently stands.

I am a film student, I can’t possibly tell you how many of my edits contain (a) copyrighted music (b) copyrighted video or © objects that are similar to but not the same as copyrighted material. No lawyers have come knocking on my door, and these have been “broadcast to the masses with out explicit written permission”

The fact you haven’t been busted doesn’t make it legal…

(bacon) #38

The only reason you can do that legally is you’re using it for noncommercial, educational use. This is called fair deal. However, if you fail to provide any of the criteria for fair deal you could be charged with copyright infringement.

Would you like to know more?

(P4nth3r) #39

Hi guys, I just recieved mail from Team 17 check this:

From : Martyn Brown <>
Reply-To : <>
Sent : Monday, September 5, 2005 11:17 AM
To : <>
Subject : Sound

Please ensure you credit the voices as © Team17 Software Ltd. Used with permission.

Martyn Brown,
Studio Director, Team17 Software Ltd.

[telephone numbers deleted - not sure they were intended for publication :slight_smile: - Wils]

So, now my soundpack of worms will be legal.
Just because they are so nice I will give them as much credit as possible.
Like in the quickchat menu

  1. Worms © Team17 Software Ltd

rtcwfiles.com eat your heart out =P

Greetz Panther a.k.a. Way2Evil

(Loffy) #40

Holy sh*t! Congrats!