PSA: Don't start Dirty Bomb from a UAC-elevated Steam client

(Hipolipolopigus) #21

Two days to get a cookie-cutter response from them that didn’t even look into the situation. Lovely.

(Nail) #22

using the @ in front of name alerts person like @Hipolipolopigus

(Hipolipolopigus) #23

I’m aware, but this was directly through Nexon support. I included a link to this thread, and got a generic response.

(mrlong2) #24

@MissMurder come help!

This makes me mad to read this! They need to dump xigncode.

(Hipolipolopigus) #25

One more week, one more generic response that completely ignores the situation.

@MissMurder what’s the point of having an appeals system if your “zero-tolerance” policy tells your staff to completely ignore an appeal over a false-positive?

(Szakalot) #26

bump; cause this should not be swept under a rug

(Andyman99999) #27

[quote=“Hipolipolopigus;13652”]TL,DR; Xigncode doesn’t like it when Steam is running as an elevated process, and you’ll get your account “permanently suspended” if you try to play Dirty Bomb.

Edit: Update here. Either something’s changed with Xigncode in this update or restarting Steam removed some random offending process.

Story time! I recently decided to replay Fallout 3, which doesn’t play nicely with Windows 7/8 (Because Bethesda). The workaround is to run it in compatibility mode for Windows XP SP3, and run it as an elevated process. The latter has a couple of implications;

  1. You get a UAC prompt whenever you start Fallout 3
  2. You can’t use the Steam overlay unless Steam’s running elevated as well
  3. Alt-tabbing to check Steam messages without the overlay can make the game unresponsive

So I ran Steam as an elevated process instead. No UAC prompt, the overlay works so I don’t need to worry about alt-tabbing making the game unresponsive, all positives… Right? I took a break to play Dirty Bomb, and Xigncode - the wonderful anti-cheat that we all know and love - decided it didn’t like Steam being elevated. So I restart Steam without the elevation, play Dirty Bomb, and everything’s fine… Right?

Decided to play this afternoon, only to find my account - a Founder’s account of two years - has been “permanently suspended”. Good job, Xigncode. You managed to detect my totally malicious Steam client and prevent me from hacking with it. I genuinely don’t expect this thread to get my account back, and I can probably deal with the handful of lost cash that I’ve put into DB, but I hope that it at least serves as a warning to others. Xigncode is ridiculously over-sensitive, and anything that isn’t exactly the way Xigncode thinks it should be will get you banned.[/quote]
Who uses UAC? You mean you didn’t disable it when you installed Windows? I have it turned off, and I always do when I reinstall Windows. You get a message every single little thing you try to do…

(Hipolipolopigus) #28

Eh, call it paranoia. It’s not bothersome in most cases, it’s just the thought of needing to do it whenever Fallout 3 decides to crash on a whim that irks me. Used TTW to port F3 to NV in the end, it was a far cleaner solution and let me use my NV mods ¯_(ツ)_/¯

(cornJester) #29

Eh, call it paranoia. It’s not bothersome in most cases, it’s just the thought of needing to do it whenever Fallout 3 decides to crash on a whim that irks me. Used TTW to port F3 to NV in the end, it was a far cleaner solution and let me use my NV mods ¯_(ツ)_/¯[/quote]

I did not know TTW existed. I love you now, hope that’s okay.

(Hipolipolopigus) #30

Happy to spread the word :tongue: Just be careful, it’s kinda picky about compatibility (MMUE, various major bug/performance fixes) and some mods require a TTW patch. The tradeoff is that you can use some Fallout 3 mods!

(Ghosthree3) #31

UAC is extremely underrated. It’s goal is to stop something executing behind your back and installing shit onto your machine and it’s flawless at it. Unless you install a virus yourself you’re now safe from most of the viruses out there, the only ones that can really affect you are ones that replace the files in your already installed software.

(Halosheep) #32

UAC is extremely underrated. It’s goal is to stop something executing behind your back and installing shit onto your machine and it’s flawless at it. Unless you install a virus yourself you’re now safe from most of the viruses out there, the only ones that can really affect you are ones that replace the files in your already installed software.[/quote]

Strangely I find UAC to be a nuisance on Windows, but when I’m using Linux I don’t mind having to type in a password every time I need to get root access. There’s just something about the way UAC handles itself that feels inconvenient.
You’re right though, it’s a very good deterrent if you’re somewhat versed in computers, not as much for people that just click yes every time so the window would go away. My ex and her family were all people that did that, and at some point I came in and had to help them clear a whole lot of viruses from the system.