Phantom and Thunder Updates

(Saiph) #21

And ? Fragger is arguably the best merc in the game. Compared to him almost every merc looks weak.

(Cuck) #22

kek
oh god now he can run thru mines

[quote=“FerfyDerf;177683”]Ok, so just to ask/confirm.

Does the EMP effect reset throughout the cloak duration?

Does the EMP travel through walls?[/quote]

this… we need to know this…

[quote=“stayfreshshoe;28897”]Hey there!

Phantom

  • Added an EMP field to Refractive Armor, which disables nearby (~10m) enemy deployables while cloaked
    [list][*] Enemy Deployables remain disabled for 5s after leaving the EMP field[/list]
  • Increased Refractive Armor duration by ~10%

Enjoy!
shoe.[/quote]

dear mr.shoe

at this point, phantom is no longer recon.
phantom become more like squishy Assault/ squishy Stealthy/squishy Flanker Merc
(jack of all trades, master of none)

is this correct mr.shoe?
i mean, phantom having emp ability is nice, but that still wont get us closer to make him becoming a recon merc.

(Cuck) #23

[quote=“Watsyurdeal;177682”]An EMP field???

Like…that is the most random thing for Phantom to have, but then again it means I can definitely kill Aura’s and others on healing stations, and sneaky plant if I want to now.

So that’s nice

And removed the EMP effect from conc nades???

SO WHY NOT JUST GIVE THOSE NADES TO PHANTOM?

I mean I’m not trying to be mean here, but wouldn’t a simple nade rather than having to walk up to that station or mine to disable it make sense???

Bah humbug, I’ll be playing Phantom next week regardless.
[/quote]

melee oriented phantom slashing people in healing station and jumping on mines!

(Drac0rion) #24

This better be a temporary buff for Phantom. And still couldn’t give him the 10hp back.

I have posted lots of suggestions already as well as many others and the community could still throw out more suggestions on how to balance him in different ways.

While I understand it’s not great to take suggestions from the community as it’s hard to say who are competent enough to speak for the competitive side of the game, as the competitive side doesn’t really exist, but after all this time and only 10% pixel cloak duration and a barely useful EMP change? That’s it?

If this is confirmed as “THE rework”/his final changes. Welp, I guess all I can do is make another shitpost as by then I can confirm that SD isn’t looking forward to a balanced game, but rather slowly slightly change a few numbers around every now and then when the community gets too vocal and moans for too long about something being OP or useless.

(Brycko) #25

And ? Fragger is arguably the best merc in the game. Compared to him almost every merc looks weak.

[/quote]

Best Merc, worst analogies.

HERE COMES THUNDERRRRRRRRRRR! EMP effect was too short to be effective anyways.

(SereneFlight) #26

Somebody please tell me this is a troll…

(Freezer_Boss) #27

OMGGGGGGG PHANTOM HYPE ! (Inb4, i’m gonna play him 24/7)

(CCP115) #28

They didn’t fix Phantom’s armor?

Fuck.

(KattiValk) #29

So Phantom now hard counters every single engineer ability? I’ll have to play it to gauge, but that sounds insanely good.

(solace_) #30

RIP thunder. I don’t even know what to say about phantom.

I hope this is a joke.

(blufflord) #31

Ok phantom changes seem kinda cool, will like to try them out. But thunder? He cant disable health stations now? So what exactly does he do other than being a huge fat fuck in the middle of the map? I honestly dont see how this has made thunder better? Someone pls explain to me…

(N8o) #32

So the one viable thing about Thunder was given to Phantom?

Is the viability of mercs constant in a closed system? What is this bullsh*t.

(SereneFlight) #33

SHHH!!! If you say that out of loud they might actually realize they did a baad bad thing.

(SargentSpoon) #34

dammit, why get rid of the emp effect on thunder’s nades? In all honesty i dont think a +10hp compensates too well for that

(Tommy) #35

Yay! Thanks guys!! I know these are not the final tweaks. But, I’m glad to see ya’ll making them!! :slight_smile:

(AnonOmis1000) #36

Still cant cook Thunder’s conc grenades shakes head.

I also don’t get the reason why you’d take away the EMP effect of his conc grenades. That made them more useful than a simple flash bang grenade.

(Eox) #37

The changes feels okay to me.

That +10 hp buff for Thunder is definitely well deserved. The removal of the EMP effect is debatable though. A fuze time reduced from 1.2 sec to 0.9 sec feels pretty strong. Basically, this allow Thunder to be more efficient than Fragger in open areas… Feels okay to me I guess. But I can’t decide myself untill I try.

I feel like the emp field for Phantom will annoy me a lot, but at least he gets a well deserved utility buff. I wasn’t expecting that kind of change though. Hopefully the servers won’t be awfully crowded with Phantoms when the changes will come out though.

(sneak) #38

So Thunder is being made more effective AND getting an increase in HP. Where’s the increase in the size of the miniature head hitbox?

Also, why are they still ignoring the fact that Fletcher has been immensely overpowered for so long? He was overpowered before Thunder even came out…

(Sorotia) #39

Probably because Phantom is getting a EMP…sure Auras would complain if they were constantly getting shut down by a team with a Phantom and a Thunder.

(Sorotia) #40

[quote=“sneak;177766”]So Thunder is being made more effective AND getting an increase in HP. Where’s the increase in the size of the miniature head hitbox?

Also, why are they still ignoring the fact that Fletcher has been immensely overpowered for so long? He was overpowered before Thunder even came out…[/quote]

Well there are already plans to aoe nerf his bombs…