New Merc: Guardian

(FishRolls) #21

She’s korean Jäger

(Melinder) #22

@bushyg said:
Guyyyyyyyyys, die on the EV for rez. Die on the point, guyyyyyyyyysssssssssss.

Hero’s never die… for a price.

Good to see SD are out of touch.

(watsyurdeal) #23

It’s most the useful thing these lemmings can do though, die on the point and I’ll pick you up

And you might ask why

(AlbinMatt) #24
  1. Guardian. Really now? Guardian? SD, with such interesting characters can you guys not come up with better names?
  2. So her drone acts like a Trophy System, which does relieve the tension from Javelin basically being the second Hadrada tearing through England, but how many “charges” does it have? We saw it cleanup an entire Skyhaggis Haggis Rain, and still seemed active. Also what’s its health and cooldown?
  3. Her shock field seems interesting as aass revival mechanic, though shame she doesn’t seem to be able to utilize it herself, but as with Sparkling Albino’s REVIVR, I think the devs intended this to be an AoE lighting shock thingy that damages enemies, in which case jow long should its cooldown be?

She seems like an appreciable addition to DB, and I personally love her design (she looks like a female Phoenix but no priest robe). Now let’s stretch our legs, grab some popcorn and watch as the forums descend into anarchy over a seemingly “OP” and “Game Breaking” merc once more.

(Press E) #25

Imo, as a medic main if her aoe revive has a cooldown, she’s not going to be a viable medic at all. The radius is so small, you’d be extremely lucky to revive more than one merc at once. And what happens if someone else is downed but too far away? Screw them because cooldown?
It’s a cool idea, but it’s not very practical if it had a cooldown.

But of course she isn’t really much like a medic, she seems to be more combat oriented and half turtle. If her weapons are good sure, and I’m certain her drone will be annoying as hell to explosive mains, but I’m suspicious of her status as an actual medic.

#26

@neverplayseriou said:

@Wintergreen said:
Yeah, she seems really balanced right out of the gate but I guess we’ll see. If she had defibs on top of that aoe heal then I think she’d be pretty overpowered as a medic. Balancing her seems like it’ll take nothing more than getting the cooldowns right and the hp on the drone. Sweet. Excited for her.

Did you even watch the video, it’s an aoe revive not a heal, she’s already stupidly op for anyone with a brain that realises she can be used with an aura/turtle combo…

Yeah, I did watch the video considering I was one of the first few to post said video on here. She has no defibs or alternative way to heal which is what I was getting confirmation on before I felt like she was too powerful. She’s like a support/combat medic without any frontline heals that can only revive with an ability we can presume will have a reasonable cooldown. Anyone with a brain will ensure they finish off their kills or prioritize taking her out first in hectic encounters. Maybe try relaxing a bit and take heed of your own name?

(neverplayseriou) #27

@Wintergreen said:
Anyone with a brain will ensure they finish off their kills or prioritize taking her out first in hectic encounters. Maybe try relaxing a bit and take heed of your own name?

So I say that’s anyone with a brain will realise she’s op when used with turtle/aura and you use her garbage revive ability as a counter?

I couldn’t care less about her shit revive, as I said before anyone with a brain should realise how op she’s gonna be when used in a combo with aura and turtle.

#28

That’s your impression and that’s fine. I think the developers have at least halfway functioning brains and thus there’s no reason to get all worked up about somethin’ that hasn’t even been released yet. She seems like she’ll take next to no work to keep her reasonably balanced, but only time will tell. Excuse my use of the word ‘heal’ instead of revive. I knew what the ability was and that’s what I was getting at.

(Demolama) #29

A medic that cannot heal is a wasted space on the team. Even though sparks can’t do a lot of healing she still has the ability.

(GatoCommodore) #30

@AlbinMatt said:

  1. Guardian. Really now? Guardian? SD, with such interesting characters can you guys not come up with better names?

yea we have a guy marking artillery called arty
we have a guy slinging frag grenade called fragger
we have a girl with proximity mine called proxy

you want what? guardy?

#31

@GatoCommodore said:

@AlbinMatt said:

  1. Guardian. Really now? Guardian? SD, with such interesting characters can you guys not come up with better names?

yea we have a guy marking artillery called arty
we have a guy slinging frag grenade called fragger
we have a girl with proximity mine called proxy

you want what? guardy?

Don’t forget queen Nader. Aura who has a healing aura. Thunder makes thunder - sort of.

(watsyurdeal) #32

@GatoCommodore said:

@AlbinMatt said:

  1. Guardian. Really now? Guardian? SD, with such interesting characters can you guys not come up with better names?

yea we have a guy marking artillery called arty
we have a guy slinging frag grenade called fragger
we have a girl with proximity mine called proxy

you want what? guardy?

Don’t forget the master of shit posting Memer

(woodchip) #33

@Demolama said:
A medic that cannot heal is a wasted space on the team. Even though sparks can’t do a lot of healing she still has the ability.

I mean her ability seems super useful especially stacked with aura/turtle. But it seems real awkward to have her as the medic in your squad and then still 100% rely on someone else playing medic to heal.

Just doesn’t fit to me. I would rather she was an engineer so the turtle+guardian stack wasn’t efficient. Right now she’s a half medic who synergizes incredibly well with the already annoying aura + turtle combo.

(Your worst knifemare.) #34

A well aimed Stokes or a Phantom could ruin it.

(woodchip) #35

@Lord_Coctus said:
A well aimed Stokes or a Phantom could ruin it.

Well, yeah. It’ll have counters, at least in the form of phantom. But this is definitely a huge buff to the combo, which was already strong. Turtle+aura+AR wielding teammate just got a giant upgrade.

And given how weak her medic kit is outside of the droid, it seems like you would really want to play her as part of an aura stack. Aura+Guardian’s kits each remove the other’s weaknesses (aura station is an explosive trap, aura occasionally dies to a nice chain of headshots giving the aoe rez a rare time to shine, Guardian can’t actually heal).

(neverplayseriou) #36

@Lord_Coctus said:
A well aimed Stokes or a Phantom could ruin it.

Stoker just blocks the team from pushing with his molly and I’m fairly certain his molotov in nade form gets destroyed by Guardian’s trophy system.

Phantom well gl getting close to anything with that cloak…

(Press E) #37

@Demolama said:
A medic that cannot heal is a wasted space on the team. Even though sparks can’t do a lot of healing she still has the ability.

That’s like saying anyone who isn’t a medic is a waste of space. She does a lot of other things.
I mean, blocking airstrikes and explosives from the EV or camps really sounds like a wasted spot to you?
She’s not a typical medic, but that doesn’t mean she’s useless. Realistically she’s a defensive assault merc with medic capabilities.

And this is coming from an actual medic main, someone with 350 something hours on aura alone.

(woodchip) #38

@STARRYSOCK said:

@Demolama said:
A medic that cannot heal is a wasted space on the team. Even though sparks can’t do a lot of healing she still has the ability.

That’s like saying anyone who isn’t a medic is a waste of space. She does a lot of other things.
I mean, blocking airstrikes and explosives from the EV or camps really sounds like a wasted spot to you?
She’s not a typical medic, but that doesn’t mean she’s useless. Realistically she’s a defensive assault merc with medic capabilities.

And this is coming from an actual medic main, someone with 350 something hours on aura alone.

She is kind of a waste of space in a squad. She’s really only desirable if your team has at least 1 other medic and is also running some defensive deployables. I can buy that she’s going to be strong, but it seems inevitable that she’ll be the most niche merc on the roster.

(OwynTyler) #39

wtf airstrike was a projectile you could shoot down?! :open_mouth:

(Loki.) #40

@neverplayseriou said:

as I said before anyone with a brain should realise how op she’s gonna be when used in a combo with aura and turtle.

For some reason, they just ain’t getting it…

Good lord - putting a shield around another Shield then drop a health station in there as well!

WTH are they thinking…