MOA SNPR-1 or FEL-IX Vassili

[XavienX]

[quote=“Xavien;135918”]Felix has a bigger hitbox and honestly feels better. However I use the MOA because its disadvantage compared to the MOA is absolutely ridiculous. The only advantage in terms of stats is its 4 more damage…that’s it. I bet in a 1v1 fight with Vassili vs Vassili (that are experienced) with no cover around, the MOA user would win against the Felix user due to its fast firing rate and bigger magazine with only 4 less damage but either sniper rifle would still need a headshot to one shot most mercs.

It has a bigger hitbox?? No, no it doesn’t.
And also the MOA doesn’t have the larger magazine - it has 6 in the mag, while the FEl-IX has 7. Your information is clearly outdated, since it’s been at least two months since the version of Dirty Bomb when the MOA had more ammo in the mag, so perhaps you should only participate in conversations that you actually know about? Cause you’re just giving everyone false information.[/quote]

@ProfPlump That’s with an extra clip augment, sure it now has 1 more ammo clip but the disadvantages are still quite big. And the hitbox honestly feels quite bigger for Vassili players on the Felix.

[vdll]

@Xavien what do you mean by bigger hitbox?

[XavienX]

@Xavien what do you mean by bigger hitbox?

@convincingMollusk I play with a handful of Vassili mains, including myself, we all believe the Felix has somewhat weirdly a bigger hitbox as a lot of times we thought it wasn’t a headshot because we hit the body, it turned out to be a headshot. But we’re so used to the MOA that whenever we do those kind of shots, we end up with bodyshots.

[ProfPlump]

[quote=“convincingMollusk;136316”]@Xavien what do you mean by bigger hitbox?

@convincingMollusk I play with a handful of Vassili mains, including myself, we all believe the Felix has somewhat weirdly a bigger hitbox as a lot of times we thought it wasn’t a headshot because we hit the body, it turned out to be a headshot. But we’re so used to the MOA that whenever we do those kind of shots, we end up with bodyshots.[/quote]

I find that very strange… It MIGHT be something to do with the strange milldot crosshair that the FEL-IX/PDP 70 scope has, where the centre milldot is actually very slightly off centre.

That said, I highly doubt they would intentionally implement a ‘wider bullet’ or anything without making it public knowledge. It COULD be a bug, but I don’t think so.

I’ve got 12,000 kills with the MOA and 1,000 kills with the FEL-IX, and I can’t really notice a difference with the hitboxes…

[XavienX]

[quote=“Xavien;136452”][quote=“convincingMollusk;136316”]@Xavien what do you mean by bigger hitbox?

@convincingMollusk I play with a handful of Vassili mains, including myself, we all believe the Felix has somewhat weirdly a bigger hitbox as a lot of times we thought it wasn’t a headshot because we hit the body, it turned out to be a headshot. But we’re so used to the MOA that whenever we do those kind of shots, we end up with bodyshots.[/quote]

I find that very strange… It MIGHT be something to do with the strange milldot crosshair that the FEL-IX/PDP 70 scope has, where the centre milldot is actually very slightly off centre.

That said, I highly doubt they would intentionally implement a ‘wider bullet’ or anything without making it public knowledge. It COULD be a bug, but I don’t think so.

I’ve got 12,000 kills with the MOA and 1,000 kills with the FEL-IX, and I can’t really notice a difference with the hitboxes…[/quote]

I have about the same ratio of kills to you with the MOA and Fel-ix and I was thinking the same thing, maybe it’s due to it’s scope crosshair being more solid-like for some reason and changes your vision and reflex capability. @ProfPlump

[Tanker_Ray]

[quote=“Xavien;136452”][quote=“convincingMollusk;136316”]@Xavien what do you mean by bigger hitbox?

@convincingMollusk I play with a handful of Vassili mains, including myself, we all believe the Felix has somewhat weirdly a bigger hitbox as a lot of times we thought it wasn’t a headshot because we hit the body, it turned out to be a headshot. But we’re so used to the MOA that whenever we do those kind of shots, we end up with bodyshots.[/quote]

I find that very strange… It MIGHT be something to do with the strange milldot crosshair that the FEL-IX/PDP 70 scope has, where the centre milldot is actually very slightly off centre.

That said, I highly doubt they would intentionally implement a ‘wider bullet’ or anything without making it public knowledge. It COULD be a bug, but I don’t think so.

I’ve got 12,000 kills with the MOA and 1,000 kills with the FEL-IX, and I can’t really notice a difference with the hitboxes…[/quote]

It really does have ‘Thicker’ or ‘Wider’ bullet.

I also felt that lots of times.

Well, still very slight advantage you get from using Fel instead of MOA.

[Reddeadcap]

Unless the MoA’s damage is decreased, or the FEL-IX gets 80 damage a shot, I’d pick the MoA way over the FEL-IX as there are no real advantages to FEL-IX.

[vdll]

Unless the MoA’s damage is decreased, or the FEL-IX gets 80 damage a shot, I’d pick the MoA way over the FEL-IX as there are no real advantages to FEL-IX.

Pretty much, if you rule out the augments.

[Reddeadcap]

[quote=“Redcap;138281”]Unless the MoA’s damage is decreased, or the FEL-IX gets 80 damage a shot, I’d pick the MoA way over the FEL-IX as there are no real advantages to FEL-IX.

Pretty much, if you rule out the augments.[/quote]
I rule out Augment when it comes to weapon balance, yes.

If I did bring up Augments it would be more about the loadouts themselves in general and with Vasilli’s loadouts, all loadouts with the PDP and MoA have more versatile Augments, with the F23 being pretty much the only viable one with the FEL-IX thanks to it having spotter, the thankfully updated Bombs Squad and Tough.

But when it comes to the MoA and FEL-IX themselves the main reason the FEL-IX was knocked down to 79 damage and given 1 more shot per mag was due to people complaining that it could 1 hit kill Aura via bodyshots… when at the time Aura was pretty much the meta since her healing station was much more powerful and quicker to regain and the only real merc one could use against Aura was at the time Fragger if she were to drop her station which healed the very moment it was dropped rather thank having a relay.

That said the FEL-IX has: Worse Sights, Less ammo but more ammo per mag, lower rate of fire, Longer reload time for it just having 4 more damage and one more round per mag.

Keeping in mind that if the Fel-ix wasn’t changed, it could 1 hit kill via headshots 24 out of 25 mercs rather than 23.
With the only one who’d die via body shots would be Aura and Sparks, a medic that can be a great both when it comes to pushing towards an objective as she is defending who relies on shotguns and an smg and a medic that everyone hates for pretty much being as good at revivng as she is at sniping, and that’s without the need of scoping in.

[vdll]

[quote=“convincingMollusk;138286”][quote=“Redcap;138281”]Unless the MoA’s damage is decreased, or the FEL-IX gets 80 damage a shot, I’d pick the MoA way over the FEL-IX as there are no real advantages to FEL-IX.

Pretty much, if you rule out the augments.[/quote]
I rule out Augment when it comes to weapon balance, yes.

If I did bring up Augments it would be more about the loadouts themselves in general and with Vasilli’s loadouts, all loadouts with the PDP and MoA have more versatile Augments, with the F23 being pretty much the only viable one with the FEL-IX thanks to it having spotter, the thankfully updated Bombs Squad and Tough.
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The only viable loadout for MOA is MO11 and it’s kinda ‘meh’ anyway. Not anywhere near F12 or F91 in terms of augments.

Still, I agree that FEL-IX is inferior by far. Can’t see nothing wrong with 80 damage on such rifle as well.

[Dawnlazy]

I really really detest the concept of a 1-bodyshot kill, especially in a game like this where TTK is fairly decent. Fel-ix should be buffed in another way. Maybe remove penetration from the MOA and also make the Fel-ix deal extra damage to deployables and objectives.

[ZeusGod]

Ive been using the pdp ,fel-ex , and the moa and ive noticed i l like the moa feel better than the fel-ex but at the same time i feel like the fel-ex is lighter and i like that it has more mags in it. The pdp is a gun i use when i get bored but I have been getting more consistent kills with the moa and the pdp.

[Reddeadcap]

I really really detest the concept of a 1-bodyshot kill, especially in a game like this where TTK is fairly decent. Fel-ix should be buffed in another way. Maybe remove penetration from the MOA and also make the Fel-ix deal extra damage to deployables and objectives.

I normally do too, but considering that it’d only do that to 2 mercs who are the smallest and fastest. One who’s all about healing groups of players, another that can revive people at a distance and counter sniper, it seams fair since it also would kill Thunder via a headshot rather than knock him down to 2 health. That or maybe just remove the penetration from the MoA and give the FEL-IX a x3 headshot multiplier to kill even Rhino in a headshot.

[vdll]

That or maybe just remove the penetration from the MoA and give the FEL-IX a x3 headshot multiplier to kill even Rhino in a headshot.

There is huge Rhino-humiliating potential in this idea which is sweet, but it will make him camp even harder imo.

[AlphaUT]

MOA >>> Felix , that’s all I can say

[SirMurder]

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