MattjA (EU) Cheating (Aimbotting(& Wallhacking ?)) in Dirty Bomb.

(Humbug) #61

I don’t know anyone in this thread, but i’m pretty sure this guy is NOT cheating…
your video proves absolutely nothing, sorry.
Really poor to accuse someone of being a cheater without a proof

(Breezer) #62

[quote=“Humbug;12671”]I don’t know anyone in this thread, but i’m pretty sure this guy is NOT cheating…
your video proves absolutely nothing, sorry.
Really poor to accuse someone of being a cheater without a proof[/quote]

explain me 5:32

(Humbug) #63

[quote=“dignifiedIdeal;12675”][quote=“Humbug;12671”]I don’t know anyone in this thread, but i’m pretty sure this guy is NOT cheating…
your video proves absolutely nothing, sorry.
Really poor to accuse someone of being a cheater without a proof[/quote]

explain me 5:32[/quote]

fast reaction, and used to his mouse settings. (FULL STOP)
if he would be cheating this guy would’ve been DEAD

(Breezer) #64

[quote=“Humbug;12678”][quote=“dignifiedIdeal;12675”][quote=“Humbug;12671”]I don’t know anyone in this thread, but i’m pretty sure this guy is NOT cheating…
your video proves absolutely nothing, sorry.
Really poor to accuse someone of being a cheater without a proof[/quote]

explain me 5:32[/quote]

fast reaction, and used to his mouse settings. (FULL STOP)
if he would be cheating this guy would’ve been DEAD[/quote]

You do know that he didn’t scroll to go there ? You do know that it took 1 frame to perfectly go there and stop ? You should download the recording and do a frame by frame.

(Humbug) #65

[quote=“dignifiedIdeal;12683”][quote=“Humbug;12678”][quote=“dignifiedIdeal;12675”][quote=“Humbug;12671”]I don’t know anyone in this thread, but i’m pretty sure this guy is NOT cheating…
your video proves absolutely nothing, sorry.
Really poor to accuse someone of being a cheater without a proof[/quote]

explain me 5:32[/quote]

fast reaction, and used to his mouse settings. (FULL STOP)
if he would be cheating this guy would’ve been DEAD[/quote]

You do know that he didn’t scroll to go there ? You do know that it took 1 frame to perfectly go there and stop ? You should download the recording and do a frame by frame. [/quote]

maybe you record your video with 30fps and he plays with 300 fps? so it could have taken him 270 frames and you wouldn’t know.
All I say is that your video proves nothing. Go and see the other videos of cheaters and you will know what cheating is/looks like

(GnagarN) #66

Not cheating.

(Breezer) #67

@Humbug

  1. Download the file and check the frame rate of the video. There is a Mega link of the raw foootage.
  2. Explain what it only happen on him then ? Wich is a clear a mark of poorly coded aimbot.

i watched a LOT of good players on DB servers. Never happend, never had this Except on aimbotters. You are assuming i can’t recognise a cheater, but that not the only thing that is fishy in the whole video there is plenty. the 32 frames swap on the proxy on the mg wich peek out on the left top floor building And i already caught 2 on DB and this very forum.

Oh and for the record the proxy that he shot upstair it took him (on the base of 60Frames per second) 18frames to react 14frames(Oh and i wont even bother talking about once again the quick teleport there is in the 14farmes) to shoot precisly on her.

There also an Amazing react time / aiming @03:03 7 frames to react 10 to aim precisely and shoot.

ps 21frames 0.35 sec | 18 frames = 0.3 sec | 14 frames 0.233 sec | 10 frames 0.166 sec | 7 frames 0.116 sec

By watching the video frame by frame you will notice clearly the same patern on the close quarter kill and medium range (A straight line between the shoulder. 03:54 04:01 04:20 04:40.(there is more))
After that on the footage for the mg part(05:01) there is always the same line drawn except that the aimebot is trying to get on the “rail” aka the line of Shoulders once again i advice you to watch this part frame by frame with the mg. Same line, same pattern the kill on Austin and N3owar make it quite obvious.

(Humbug) #68

[quote=“dignifiedIdeal;12707”]@Humbug

  1. Download the file and check the frame rate of the video. There is a Mega link of the raw foootage.
  2. Explain what it only happen on him then ? Wich is a clear a mark of poorly coded aimbot.

i watched a LOT of good players on DB servers. Never happend, never had this Except on aimbotters. You are assuming i can’t recognise a cheater, but that not the only thing that is fishy in the whole video there is plenty. the 32 frames swap on the proxy on the mg wich peek out on the left top floor building And i already caught 2 on DB and this very forum.

Oh and for the record the proxy that he shot upstair it took him (on the base of 60Frames per second) 18frames to react 14frames(Oh and i wont even bother talking about once again the quick teleport there is in the 14farmes) to shoot precisly on her.

There also an Amazing react time / aiming @03:03 7 frames to react 10 to aim precisely and shoot.

ps 21frames 0.35 sec | 18 frames = 0.3 sec | 14 frames 0.233 sec | 10 frames 0.166 sec | 7 frames 0.116 sec

By watching the video frame by frame you will notice clearly the same patern on the close quarter kill and medium range (A straight line between the shoulder. 03:54 04:01 04:20 04:40.(there is more))
After that on the footage for the mg part(05:01) there is always the same line drawn except that the aimebot is trying to get on the “rail” aka the line of Shoulders once again i advice you to watch this part frame by frame with the mg. Same line, same pattern the kill on Austin and N3owar make it quite obvious.[/quote]

I never did this with any other video so I can’t compare anything there… (and for sure i won’t waste my time with that)
but i’ve seen people cheating and this doesn’t look like cheating to me
If you spent so much time for every stupid cheater, you won’t be playing much, but rage a lot…
I personally didn’t see an obvious cheater in over 100 hours playtime yet.

(Breezer) #69

[quote=“Humbug;12712”][quote=“dignifiedIdeal;12707”]@Humbug

  1. Download the file and check the frame rate of the video. There is a Mega link of the raw foootage.
  2. Explain what it only happen on him then ? Wich is a clear a mark of poorly coded aimbot.

i watched a LOT of good players on DB servers. Never happend, never had this Except on aimbotters. You are assuming i can’t recognise a cheater, but that not the only thing that is fishy in the whole video there is plenty. the 32 frames swap on the proxy on the mg wich peek out on the left top floor building And i already caught 2 on DB and this very forum.

Oh and for the record the proxy that he shot upstair it took him (on the base of 60Frames per second) 18frames to react 14frames(Oh and i wont even bother talking about once again the quick teleport there is in the 14farmes) to shoot precisly on her.

There also an Amazing react time / aiming @03:03 7 frames to react 10 to aim precisely and shoot.

ps 21frames 0.35 sec | 18 frames = 0.3 sec | 14 frames 0.233 sec | 10 frames 0.166 sec | 7 frames 0.116 sec

By watching the video frame by frame you will notice clearly the same patern on the close quarter kill and medium range (A straight line between the shoulder. 03:54 04:01 04:20 04:40.(there is more))
After that on the footage for the mg part(05:01) there is always the same line drawn except that the aimebot is trying to get on the “rail” aka the line of Shoulders once again i advice you to watch this part frame by frame with the mg. Same line, same pattern the kill on Austin and N3owar make it quite obvious.[/quote]

I never did this with any other video so I can’t compare anything there… (and for sure i won’t waste my time with that)
but i’ve seen people cheating and this doesn’t look like cheating to me
If you spent so much time for every stupid cheater, you won’t be playing much, but rage a lot…
I personally didn’t see an obvious cheater in over 100 hours playtime yet.[/quote]

You not whilling to do it doesn’t mean i won’t. I do think it’s important to have te community clean as much as we can. I usualy dont bother go THIS DEEP in the footage. But there were so many people who said that he ain’t cheating i couldn’t let it go.

As i started this thread i had to go frame by frame on the video to answer to people who disregard the footage and saying with nothing but a “He ain’t cheating” i at least care to explain why he does, and why people are wrong.

(art1er) #70
(MattjA) #71

You go in frame by frame but as it has been said before that there can be different frames of recording and playing. The video has jitters after 5 minutes; and you can’t say it was 5 frames to react to someone and 7 frames to have the crosshair on them.

You have to take the video at face value and look at it without identifying the thousands of frames. If it looks like quick reactions then it probably is, if it looks like it’s too quick so it would be unhuman then that’s all it is. If you want to ‘catch’ cheaters then look at it properly not like a a deranged wolf.

However if you hadn’t noticed the proxy cross the street before hand, I called to my team that he would go to the top of the house as she was detected and then I expected it which enhanced the reactions. :slight_smile:

(Breezer) #72

[quote=“MattjA;12729”]
You have to take the video at face value and look at it without identifying the thousands of frames. If it looks like quick reactions then it probably is, if it looks like it’s too quick so it would be unhuman then that’s all it is. If you want to ‘catch’ cheaters then look at it properly not like a a deranged wolf.[/quote]

I don’t understand your point, and what you are explaining. Regarless it doesnt discredit what i said. How looking at everything happen frame by frame is bad ? Especially if we are looking for a software that always behave the same way ? lol

The reaction time / frame could be arguable. On two point only.

It’s Either faster or slower because i’m specing (Sadly it’s probably even faster on your end).

People can sometime react incredibly fast. But with this accurcy multiple times in 5 minutes ? Nah.

For the Proxy i guess i won’t talk about the 4 others spots she could have pop out. And once again you miss my point wich is the aiming more than the reaction time (And how you perfectly stop on her in that time spam).

(MattjA) #73

You’re extremely boring now; this witch hunt has been going on far too long. The whole topic is a tl;dr of the following.

  1. You’re mad at everyone better than you.
  2. There are a lot of people better than you.
  3. People have good games, bad games and excellent games.
  4. People have very accurate aim within FPS titles.
  5. People have played FPS titles their entire lives to give them experience.
  6. People actually practice daily to train their muscle memory.
  7. Seven, I could go on but I’m not that bored to carry on :slight_smile:

Good evening all,

(unbleachedCoconut) #74

Maybe this guy is really good now, but who can trust him? Your past is always pursues you.
IMHO “Once a cheater = always a cheater”.

(MattjA) #75

Yeah your past is like a shadow but only to idiots it will cloud their judgements and to them they shouldn’t be allowed to have an opinion because they wouldn’t be worth it anyway.

(CC_FANG) #76

Hey folks,

In general they’d like to prevent “naming and shaming” on the forums. There hasn’t been a lot of information on what to do with user abuse reports, so hopefully this will help:

[quote=“CC_FANG;13263”]It’s a shame when players feel the need to exploit the game :#
To answer the OP’s question, there hasn’t been a system for reporting user abuse set up yet, so you can use Nexon’s support system in lieu of that.

You can email Nexon at customersupport@nexon.net
Be sure to include the game title in the subject line, as well as the following information (if applicable) in the body of the email: Character name, server name, account name, description of problem, OS version. If you have a screenshot or video you can certainly attach that as well.

Just as a heads up, they do want to discourage “naming and shaming” in the forums, so we can all kind of keep that in mind. Hopefully that answers your question :slight_smile:
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I’ll close this since it’s become rather heated, and hopefully the information can help prevent future arguments from turning sour.

Thanks! :wink: