mappers wanted

redfox · 2008-06-17 14:00:11 UTC

damn someone put the map on wolfmap.de, this was not me. so i don’t think the map is ready, but who did it?

and about “stealing things” : i don’t think that’s the right name for it. sorry, this was really my mistake i forgot to mention 2 bit, but it is fixed now.

you made an excellent ship model. are ppl really so envious and don’t want to share it (then your name will be everywhere [everyone say that his model and so on…] )but ok. do i have to remove it now?

1 more thing - if YOU make a pk3 and put it somewhere up then you HAVE to know that you are sharing everything you did and ET is a free game.

but i don’t care about that (i don’t wanna be so bigheaded and if you really want i remove it).

redfox · 2008-06-17 14:11:56 UTC

anyway screenshots are here:

and when i give out the map i say. this one in wolfmap.de is shit that someone put up. and this, too in my topic.

NB! as you can see i’ve used the rayban’s plane prefab in this map. thanks to him

but most planes in this map are from rtcw.

stebbi67 · 2008-06-17 15:16:46 UTC

[QUOTE=redfox;178544]
1 more thing - if YOU make a pk3 and put it somewhere up then you HAVE to know that you are sharing everything you did and ET is a free game.

but i don’t care about that (i don’t wanna be so bigheaded and if you really want i remove it).[/QUOTE]

I have to agree with redfox on this one. ET is a free game and I believe we should keep it in that spirit.

I always ask for permission to use something that I find in others maps except for a single texture or a single shader in either case I put the maper name in the readme file which I believe is a common courtesy, but I also believe that we should share, that will make live a bit easier for the most of us, that is if the mapper isn’t looking for something specific. I think that most mappers are a bit proud to see there on creation used in other maps as a proval of good work.
Rayban sets a good example where he sometimes release new modules which he is using in a map that he has not released.

Magic · 2008-06-17 15:27:17 UTC

That happens when you release a map

@ Stebbie - i agree

aaa3 · 2008-06-18 04:42:01 UTC

just a little bitching

@ redfox’s post. dont confuse a free game and releasing a public pk3 with that everything is free and allowed. i think the basic notion behind the release of most pk3s is ingame use and not reuse. however i guess that most mappers would let you use their stuff if asked. and would be happy with using thir stuff if propőerly credited. but doing so without credit… damn…

p.s.: my comment is not at any particular case but in general.

p.s.2.: i say again: that above comment is not at any particular case but a general note.

p.s.3.: for example i saw th0rn3 in one of his numerous beta maps (btw i liked the easter eggs one ;)), i guess that was crown wilage or idk, used a picture of an indeed nice model, as the briefing pic of his map. this implied that he made that model, and i didnt see any mention of zenith-ply, as he was the author. using his model -> put him on readme. using the model as practically the logo of the map… -> damn then on loading screen also make cear that thats not ur work, what is more ask him… i dont find it a good idea anyway…

Avoc · 2008-06-18 07:33:14 UTC

I did not mention once that someone “stole” anything.

I was just surprised to see the entire ship RIPPED out of the map with no mention AT ALL, neither towards 2bit or atleast the map itself.

You will need to ask 2bit about the ship, as he was the one who made it.

Pegazus · 2008-06-18 09:52:34 UTC

Well kinda offtopic but i bought a texture pack for 40 dollars off internet and now if i want to use those textures in one of the maps i am making or with someone, are others allowed to use them becauze that’s against the copyright i would not mind but i “respect” the law

stebbi67 · 2008-06-18 10:37:50 UTC

I’m no expert on this. I believe you have to think of this as buying a data on cd, are you allowed copy it and distribute it? If there is a copyright on the material I do not think others can legally use it. But it is just what I believe. Check if there was some legal notes ( readme file or other text files ) in the texture package then you have to add that in your map readme file.

Pegazus · 2008-06-18 10:51:55 UTC

I just read the readme file it sais
"
All contents of this CD are copyright
Any contents of this CD may not be re-sold, packaged, loaned or otherwise redistributed."
"

So i guess that i need to add the readme file and my note not to be used these becauze it’s against the copyright.

Bvooyen · 2008-06-18 15:32:42 UTC

damn guys if you want to talk about this make a new topic

pls not here we are looking for mappers and not to see who is right

greetz bvooyen

aaa3 · 2008-06-18 17:49:52 UTC

ok a last note, sry but i had to post it here for pega; solving this is simple. u (legally, but who cares on this so little issues, but if anyone, i think this [following]) cannot give him the pack to use it in the shared map, but u can sure totally legally use it in any shared project, no matter with how much ppl u share, providing that u making the work with it, and they dont have a copy only you. so u cant share the texture pack itself, and they cant work with it, but personally u can use it in the shared map, i think…
and sry bvoo

Pegazus · 2008-06-18 18:09:40 UTC

I know i must not post here but leaving no respond is rude so here goes.

Thx for the respond aaa3 now it’s all cleared up only thing now left to do is resize the textures and qualaty.

Sorry Bvooyen no hard feelings

Bvooyen · 2008-06-18 18:26:29 UTC

boys but I want gladly this topic reserve of these junk because it does not concern the aim where this topic for is made

thanks for your term

greetz bvooyen