I main fragger AMA

(ASTOUNDINGSHELL) #21

@random
Considering the “base stats” are skyhammers the basic character the standard one imean.
no. and you may say that 330 ms would be balance but thats slower than the old rhino.
Proxy ahs 90Hp and 450Ms alongside a small hitbox, makes her hard AF to hit. fragger has 150hp which is only 30 more hp than skyhammer yous till get 2 shotted by shotguns, and one shotted by proxy mines.
you are taking proxy as the bases which i dont think you should cause she is againa “Squishy” character. If fragger was that slow he woul be bascly useless, not able be an effective agresive chracter, and not storng enoguht defensive cause his large hitbox would get him killed.

and second youa r exagerating a LOT.
Artilelrys tirkes can be used qucikyl if you got the skill to do it.
granades have 3 second fuse, youc ant hold em for more than 2 seocnds without risking to getting your face blown.

The K-121 fires slow and hti hard has the same ammo that the Hochfir which has higher dps andforgive missing shots iwth low AF recoil and spread alognside a quick reload.
the Dreissis can 3 shot a fragger if you AIM, and brust rifles can melt a fragger if you are acurate you know what brust rifles are ment for NOT spraying.
and ht egrandeur is amazing if you are acurate with it.
THe K-121 is strong but it is not easy to use, Sure i use with ease cause i have trained with it, forcing myself to learn it instead of using the m4 card I have.

(Mister__Wiggles) #22

Why are you doing an ask me anything about fragger when you only have 30 or so hours with him? I got more playtime with fragger than you have with the game.

(ASTOUNDINGSHELL) #23

@Mister__Wiggles Dunno, i was bored and I can. and good for you

(XavienX) #24

I have a question too!
Wtf happened to this thread.

(yusayu) #25

Fragger gets 30 more HP for 15 less MS which is a trade ANY merc in this game would take.
And rhino for comparison has no ability, so his high health could be considered his ‘ability’.

“Only”. And you only get oneshotted by proxy mines if you dont jump out of them which basically everybody does.

Not being able to use the Arty Strike indoors is a huge deal, while the other things that it has over fraggers grenade are just minor things. Plus the target location is market, you cant bounce it around corners and on multiple maps theres little things blocking the sky for small areas. Plus, as mentioned, Fraggers grenade is instant.

Well, you still got the M4 and the Timik, the M4 being ridiculously easy to use and effective and the Timik being really good when you are used to it. HF landing 3 headshots on a Fragger with the Dreiss, it is so random after the first or 2nd shot. Fragger still has a lot of movementspeed for his HP pool.

(Mister__Wiggles) #26

@astoundingShellfish
I’m not being a dick but the way you came across in your OP it seemed like you had hundreds of hours with him. Go watch bunga bunga in comp games, you’ll learn more from him than any AMA would ever tell you. Also to add to that, some of the statements about fragger that you have made in this thread are incredibly questionable. Frag grenades are the easiest kill in the game atm, I’m a seasoned player when it comes to fragger and he is probably my favourite merc but the nades are easy to time and cook. A efficient fragger will average 1-2 kills per nade anything less than that and you might as well go nader so you can make up for it in spam. Yes a driess can 3 shot a fragger but it rarely happens due to the spread on that gun and human error. The k-121 outshone most guns if you can tame the recoil. There isn’t much that can keep up with it and your comparison with the hochfir doesn’t make sense to me, the hochfir is available for proxy, pheonix and nader all 3 have lower health than fragger and have arguably weaker abilities nader being the possible exception but even she is now match for the health pool of fragger. Watching on pro game will make you see that the k-121 doesn’t get attention. The m4 has the better augments and it’s way more reliable, if your serious about playing fragger that’s the gun you need. The augments with that gun are far to good to turn down and with the most recent tweaks to nades the unshakeable augment is even stronger. I’ll take that over a k-121 any day lastly fragger is not aggressive, he is a middle ground merc alot like skyhammer. I’m close quarter I’ll ge out gunned by a rhino and and long range arty, red eye, Kira and vasili have the tools to deal with him. But at mid range he is key, close enough for a well cooked nade and the range where the m4 excels. Only time you can get aggressive with him is if you got a good medic stuck to your every move which never happens in pubs and Ibe only come across it once I’m comp. Apart from all this though you do seem to know some of the basics and 30 hours isn’t enough to master a merc, hell it took me double that to learn fraggers playstyle.

(ASTOUNDINGSHELL) #27

@Mister__Wiggles COmpared to Rhino W+m1 and Naders Spam i dont think he is as easy as them. i dont think he is the hardest merc but i dont find him the esiest, i dont like proxy cause i felt like cheesse ht eone time i used her, out gunning tank mercs and insta blowing em with mines felt cheese to me. and not everyone learns at the same pase maybe i jsut learned how to fragger faster htan you did and thats it. >_</.
Also i know the m4 is th ebest gun, i have Gold Card with it, but i only use it for Comp, ina ny other ocation i prefer the K-121t aint reliable but getting the headshots with it makes it a monster.

@random
Rhino has the minigun which is a VERY powerfull ability/weapon.
Jumping leaves you with less than 20hp and they are as difficult as place them in a corner, not even unshaken can help you agaisnt them now.
Airstirkes deal more damage and have a potential further range and art can have 2, it is bad he cant use htem indoors, but fragge rony gets 1 in longer time period.
you are still missing fraggers LARGE hit box, see that backpack? its part of his Hitbox, and if you check in game (if you ahve the time to do it) the character is overall bigger than other characters and so is rhino which BY YOUR logic should have less than 300MS which would make him slower than the EV pushed by one person.
and if youc ant hit the large htibox fragger has then you should try and practive your aim.
another thing fragger doesnt have the timik he has the m4 which i admit is a lazorbean hence why i dont use and instea duse the K-121. Thunder had the timk but he aint released yet.

@Xavien you know th eusual a guy using hceese speedy merc gets amd at the tanky mercs for not gettign one shotted by their boomsticks

(MissMurder) #28

@astoundingShellfish Who do you ship Fragger with?

(ASTOUNDINGSHELL) #29

@astoundingShellfish >:3
Vassili is got him “on sights”

(N8o) #30

MissMurder just completely glances over all the meta-talk and arguing about Fragger to ask a silly question which we all know the answer is Fletcher

(yusayu) #31

Easy social psychology :wink:

(streetwiseSailboat) #32

Have you ever killed anyone using uncooked grenades?
This one time on Trainyard, the final point on the plank heading to the building in front of defender spawn, I was fighting a Phoenix. I took my grenade out but flinched and threw the grenade too early. The Phoenix fell off the plank and landed right on the grenade as it blew up.
This other time, an Aura ambushed me with her shotgun and I panic threw a grenade. She backpedaled into it and it killed her and her station.

(ASTOUNDINGSHELL) #33

@streetwiseSailboat Yes, i threw it and a proxy picke dit up just for it to blow on her face

(N8o) #34

Are you telling me that someone used that useless perk?! WHAT?!

(ASTOUNDINGSHELL) #35

@Haise
he was a lvl 5 and it was a lead card, so i am pretty sure it was the only one he had on her, still it was funny to watch.

(Samniss_Arandeen) #36

Can you say it with roses or a machine gun instead?

(Tanker_Ray) #37

Who are you gonna choose to marry? M4 or K-121?

I bet to K-121.

(ASTOUNDINGSHELL) #38

@Samniss_Arandeen
takes a deep sniff at a rose
RATATATATATTATATATATTATTA!!! RATATTA!

@ThunderPro Yep K-121

(Tanker_Ray) #39

Then, let’s share my ultimate rage about ‘Devs are too damn sluggish so that Thunder isn’t out even til now!!!’

I’m sure you are feeling empty without super awesome Thunder, trying to satisfy yourself with K51 Power Gunner Fragger.

(ASTOUNDINGSHELL) #40

@ThunderPro half empty, I wanted to play dazzler but i neve rpalyed alpha, i loved both thudner and fragger in the closed Beta,
but i msotly want thunder for his MG