I do hope that more fragger nerfs are still coming.

(Szakalot) #21

friendly fire is such an all-encompassing influence on gameplay that I don’t necessarily agree it nerfs any one merc, even the spammy ones like nader and fletcher.

Yes, you can’t lob nades into enemies mindlessly, but they can’t bumrush you as a group effectively either. Say you are cooking a nade as fragger, you can adjust your positioning to control the optimal movements of your opponents (typically you want one enemy to cross LoS of the other), thus AoE denial can be more effective as well.

Chokes in particular are harder to go through with FF(and collision) on, and thats an indirect buff to AoE mercs.

(BioSnark) #22

Team collision would buff fraggy :wink: Shame that isn’t even a thing on ff servers.

(ragnak) #23

Cant belive that they nerfed crotzni and phantom over fragger, this is getting silly at best, i guess i should know better after 2 years 8D

(Rémy Cabresin) #24

Hes also very good at reviving, giving health, spotting, giving ammo, destroying EV, repairing EV, building secondary objectives, destroying secondary objectives! This guy is way to good at everything!

(BomBaKlaK) #25

Fragger still merc number 1 whatever they do … on pub it’s usually at least 3 or 4 fraggers vs 3 or 4 fraggers 80% of the time. Boring …

(titan) #26

Fragger still op for sure, at least he’s not quite as obnoxious as he used to be

(Phantomchan) #27

I agree that Fragger is strong, but I still don’t think he is overpowered. Also, a lot of fraggers suck and don’t know that they can cook grenades :smiley:

(ragnak) #28

I know right ! Phatom was too good at those as well !

Not that i disagree, but when you have 3 decent fraggers against you its getting “a bit” annoying pretty fast. Vassili isnt much of a problem most of the time but we all know how strong he is in comp games.

It does piss me off that SD rather nerf phantom, because of his horrible kit, instead of something that really need a nerf. Not like i blame them for nerfing phantom but just because newbs cant cook grenades for **** doesnt mean he shouldnt be toned down, again (and if they insist on nerfing smg’s, m4 will need a nerf as well, its already pretty much the best gun in the game).