Hm anybody else notice that melee Katana animation is too cheesy like some game from 10-15 years back? Almost puts me off from trying him.
Hello Phantom!
Fleshpound
(Fleshpound)
#103
Wait,i do that with every class without Rhino. So,i’ll do it again… and again… and again…
Edit:Do not look into that meme since everyone does it sometimes on that invisibility/stealth characters.
sharpSubmarine
(sharpSubmarine)
#105
Gotta love all these people throwing “OP, nerf him” on a character while is not in the game yet.
Anyway, giving him SMGs may be a good idea in my opinion so his gameplay doesn’t turn in “sneak, flank, get a katana kill, repeat” which would be awful regarding teamplay.
Also a good step giving his cloak ability a defensive feature for the same reason I already stated: now he could be a pretty good choice to defend objectives from sneaky Proxys without worrying too much about snipers or explosives.
scrub_lord
(scrub_lord)
#106
It’s not hard to imagine how this Merc will play out based on all the game’s mechanics we are already aware of. You don’t have to play him to theory-craft his effectiveness.
As far as I can tell, Phantom is going to be incredibly powerful. He is getting a shield that doubles as a cloak and can use some of the most powerful guns in the game, not to mention 120 hp. The CD for his ability even looks to be really short from the video.
The fact that the developers are honest about him being difficult to balance should say something. Regardless, I am actually looking forward to trying Phantom out and find him to be a very interesting and imaginative Merc. I just hope they can balance him well, because I could see myself maining him.
Potato_Ladder
(Potato_Ladder)
#107
That said though, when he’s on free rotation, I have a feeling the servers are sooooooo going to be filled with him ,whenever that is.
So prepare your sanity while you can.
watsyurdeal
(watsyurdeal)
#108
Well based on my experience from TF2 and Tribes, I can say this
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A stealth character that can only get melee kills…fucking useless. Sure you might get that spree with backstabs, but it’s still situational. Not every player is going to be in a situation to be killed that way, you need a backup plan. The Revolver did ok, but it was so unreliable compared to the Ambassador once you got a feel for it. They seem to know this, which is why he has the Blishok and access to other SMGs.
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Damage reduction or damage soaking is kinda sketchy. On one hand, you can’t do anything about randomness, like explosions and whatnot, but on the other, you can’t punish people for paying attention either. It’s not hard to figure out though imo, give him 50% damage reduction instead, nerf his health a bit, 110 seems good. But, should he really be fully visible? Or only visible when the takes damage? And what about audio cues?
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The truth is with all the things I’ve been told, he seems like the one character Splash can’t decide how to balance. It’s not that hard splash, you’re on the right track. From someone who played Spy almost as a career, giving the tools be creative is the way to go. But you also have to punish people for being caught uncloaked, rather than encourage them to abuse and soak damage.
I guess we’ll find out more this weekend, I’ll try to play him as much as possible.
LANshark
(LANshark)
#109
I’m going to have so much fun playing against him as sparks.
All i’m going to do is shoot him once, get him to chase me and place a few mines. Done.
Ghosthree3
(Ghosthree3)
#110
[quote=“bizarrePuddle;36901”][quote=“peppyFarmer;36595”][quote=“NelsonWelson;36591”]Bu-bu-bu, but…
I just spent all my credits on Fletcher…
Oh well, still happy with my purchase![/quote]
You…Just like me, i bought fletcher yesterday and god…i have never been soo wrong in my life… i cant use the guy for SHIT…Cant use shotgun and i hate blishok !
[/quote]
just use the empire 9 and stickies and you’re good.[/quote]
Empire 9 better than Blish…waaaat. They’re not even in the same category, the Empire is really a side arm smg.
LANshark
(LANshark)
#111
[quote=“Ghosthree3;36903”][quote=“bizarrePuddle;36901”][quote=“peppyFarmer;36595”][quote=“NelsonWelson;36591”]Bu-bu-bu, but…
I just spent all my credits on Fletcher…
Oh well, still happy with my purchase![/quote]
You…Just like me, i bought fletcher yesterday and god…i have never been soo wrong in my life… i cant use the guy for SHIT…Cant use shotgun and i hate blishok !
[/quote]
just use the empire 9 and stickies and you’re good.[/quote]
Empire 9 better than Blish…waaaat. They’re not even in the same category, the Empire is really a side arm smg.[/quote]
i prefer the empire because of the clip and rate of fire
GoobyOfPls
(GoobyOfPls)
#112
This character is going to be very player dependent. Its about how the player goes along with using the character rather than the character being ‘too op’
Nail
(Nail)
#113
[quote=“bizarrePuddle;36901”]I’m going to have so much fun playing against him as sparks.
All i’m going to do is shoot him once, get him to chase me and place a few mines. Done.
[/quote]
where ya gonna get them mines as Sparks ?
Glot
(Glot)
#115
[quote=“Nail;36949”][quote=“bizarrePuddle;36901”]I’m going to have so much fun playing against him as sparks.
All i’m going to do is shoot him once, get him to chase me and place a few mines. Done.
[/quote]
where ya gonna get them mines as Sparks ?[/quote]
small square boxy mines with a cross on them?
lethal stuff…
XavienX
(XavienX)
#116
Wow, first time I’ve seen a thread boom like this. I mean…well it’s Phantom, who couldn’t be more excited?
Nail
(Nail)
#117
[quote=“Glottis-3D;36966”][quote=“Nail;36949”][quote=“bizarrePuddle;36901”]I’m going to have so much fun playing against him as sparks.
All i’m going to do is shoot him once, get him to chase me and place a few mines. Done.
[/quote]
where ya gonna get them mines as Sparks ?[/quote]
small square boxy mines with a cross on them?
lethal stuff…
[/quote]
Sparks has mines ?
titaniumDolphin
(titaniumDolphin)
#118
OMG! Have been waiting for this guy 4ever. Gonna have to open my wallet again though. -_-
distinquishedSandwic
(distinquishedSandwich)
#119
Aaaand watch how all the no particle configs can see him constantly 