[QUOTE=Smoochy;364844]im talking E and weed really here. both considered vastly less dangerous than alcohol and tobacco (and that was a government study - they sacked the scientists after that!). alcohol also accounts for the majority of violent crime and murder in the UK. we dont have the issues with crack like the USA. heroine here is the big bad one as its much cheaper, but they are just skinny burglars that dont really scare anyone.
also in regards to weed. i agree kids shouldnt smoke it. but in terms of mental health i read in interesting study last year. 1 in 10 people will have a psychotic episode in their normal lives. 1 in 20 weed smokers will have a psychotic episode. statistically weed smokers are half as likely to have mental health issues. interesting? it is also known to bring out schitzophrenia, not cause it (thts never been proved - ever!), so it actually shows nutter early, not create them. i know hundreds of pot smokers and nobody has issues. plenty of people i know have had big issues with alcohol. i know several alcoholics.
the fact is that pot was made illegal in the USA due to poor black workers and the cotton industry, cocaine was actually made illegal 50 years after pot!
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Ah I like you, but we should be careful about the impressions we leave here on others.
Phew… where to start… and i hope my vocabulary will be sufficient.
E itself is known to cause damage to the nervous system. Depending on your location you will have trouble to find “sober” E. At the moment it is very common to find it mixed with always changing experimental psychotic substances. Experimental in the sense of “I as drug chemic blend it in and see if users survive, like it and buy more”. Well thats for Vienna. Source: “check it” - drug analysis service in front of discos.
So we got E that is known for crippling the nervous system and whatever comes into the mix. Things should get better on the market though, as we changed the drug law to make those substances illegal by default. Before every new substance had to be forbidden and was then exchanged for a new experimental one.
Yes, there is a high correlation between violent crimes and alcohol.
Heroin is a more interesting thing, as it does no damage to your organs. You could take it up to high ages - if you get pure heroin. Hard to get it pure though and again the mixes and consuming techniques have a lot of negative potential. Heroin isnt that big here though. Oddly enough Vienna is the only city where we have users starting their carrier with the actual substitution drug. Hard to properly refine the pills(?) to the liquid injection form though and many users get incredible ugly wounds from the badly filtered liquid.
I havent heard of this study about only 5% of smokers would get a psychotic episode. But I must say, a lifetime prevalation of 10% for psychotic episode seems low, with a point prevalation of 1% for schizophrenia, but I dont got my psychiatry scripts here to check.
But the conclusion you make is simply wrong: “statistically weed smokers are half as likely to have mental health issues.” Your study was about psych episodes, you leave out all the other “funny stuff” like the affective disorders, personality disorders,…
As you stated, weed can trigger schizophrenia and those can be really fat episodes. However its also not proven that those people would have never had an episode in their life.
From an internship where i also worked with some schizophrenic people, I know some that got there over weed. And if you know hundreds of smoking people, statistically theres 1% of them schizophrenic, but you would unlikely know about it as its still a social “taboo” to have it mental problem though it gets better with depressions and burnout.
But experiences arent what we wanted to talk about 
After all there are definitly good effects in everything (in the whole life), but you should never forget about the downsides to easily. If it works for you, fine, but it doesnt for everybody. And those that get hit, get hit badly.
Phew… sorry if i missed some points or made them too quirky. Still takes me a lot of concentration to write and do it in english even more.
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