Changes to Anti-Hack Policies – Zero Tolerance

(RyePanda) #241

What about implementing something like CS:GO’s overwatch system? I f you’re suspicious, begin to record it using an in-game method, then it will go to the community to watch and vote on whether or not they think they were cheating, and include min lvl 10 in order to vote maybe?

(Ghosthree3) #242

Community vote worries me a little.

(RyePanda) #243

Apparently it works really well for CS, I think because it isn’t just majority think they’re cheating, a large majority has to say they were cheating. And you could always have those reviewed by a Nexon employee to see if they agree.

(Ghosthree3) #244

Based on what people say while playing this game and on various media outlets I don’t really trust them to know what’s legit and not.

(Sinee) #245

Last night, the opposing team refused to vote off a blatant hacker because he was helping them win.

Apparently 'cause I’m lvl 17, I was “pubstomping” (nevermind the fact I’m barely mediocre at FPS, I’ve just been playing for many hours…) and “it was a taste of my own medicine” to be slaughtered by a Rhino with hacks.

Something fair needs to be done to help players get rid of hackers that are even admitting they’re doing it, because you can’t always trust other players to be good sports that nurture a fair-play environment. :confused:

(Opti) #246

I like that this is happening I joined a game once and a Vasilli was using aimbot and it sucked :confused: good to see that you’ve cracked down on it.

(XavienX) #247

Thanks for reminding the community and the Devs 696969696969th time.

(Ardez1) #248

Going to go ahead and merge this into the existing Anti-Cheat thread.

New Anti-Cheat will be deployed as soon as possible. This has been confirmed in the dev stream and by other reps multiple times.

(BushDweller) #249

This is ridiculous, XIGN code is a big JOKE. I understand it’s in beta, but killing the community with hacker infested competitive matches is no way to start your beta. Theres a game called Soldier Front 2 with the same anticheat as DB, and it is literally hackers everywhere, it’s called the hacker paradise because of the basically non existent anticheat.

I don’t want to sound rude, but I just don’t want this game to be killed off by hackers. It either needs VAC, or an Overwatch system like CS:GO. Please splash damage, do something about this before everyone gets fed up and quits. It’s embarrassing how hackers admit to themselves hacking and saying “LOL gg no anti cheat”.

The fact that hackers say things like this proves how confident they are that they will not be issued a ban

(extbreakz) #250

Ok, so far so good. Accepted.

Just a few SERIOUS Question, which i can^t understand by thinking myself about.

  1. Each one is ABLE to DOWNLOAD kind of Hacks, exploits whatever they call or set as available to break the Rulez. You can easily download Dirty Bomb Hacks without paying any fuckin Penny - its available for everyone without starting a big SEARCH or to pay for it.

We like to play Stowatch, mostly 4,5 of us starting Parties, and i couldn^t count as often
we had contact with exploits, hacks - second monitor = live chat, ticket - approved, worked.
(thanks to the GMs)

As People are able to download them, WHY aren^t YOU GUYS from the DEV Team or the Responsibles for that kind of Thing, not starting to GET THOSE PUBLIC HACKS and analyze them to see how their written to AVOID or UPDATE your Game against it ???

Is there a Problem to get 1 or 2 People sorted for a short Search on current Public Hacks to get themselves to see or analyze those Stuff ??

Sometimes i ask myself if its maybe wanted that 3rd Party Dunno how to call them People earn Money with such Tools. (Systemcheats.net) ?? Played against him, this guy was promoting his fuckin Site and spreading <3 Hearts in Chat … we went afk and checked the Site. Pay Money for his Undetecable Dirty Bomb Super Mega Hack …

Seriously, dont missunderstand me and sorry for my bad english - it would sound LOGICAL to ME to get those Hacks, to see how they work and to get on anti updates or something to make them detectable or to completly make em unplayable.

Is there a Problem to read those Hacks out ?? i Guess no !?

I hope i am gettin explained why this couldnt be Possible, thank you

(azureChowder) #251

If anticheat pogramm ismistaken by antivirus could you get unbanned?

(Hipolipolopigus) #252

So I’ve permanently lost my two-year-old founders account because of a false-positive, and I’m getting absolutely nowhere because of this “zero-tolerance” policy. Went through support’s appeal system, constantly told that - despite the presence of said appeals system - that the ban wasn’t able to be appealed.

I explained the situation, and was given a flat “no”. I asked what triggered the ban, and was told that they couldn’t tell me because it’s “proprietary information”. I asked why they even had an appeals system in place if the answer was a universal “no”, and was told that this would no longer be providing me with support. Bloody fantastic.

I backed game years ago because I couldn’t wait for the people who made one of my favourite shooters - Brink - to make something else. I started playing again at the start of the year because things were finally kicking into high-gear, and now I’m getting screwed over by something as ridiculous as this.

Remove the appeals system if this is how you’re going to use it. I’m all for stopping hackers, but you can’t have a zero-tolerance policy unless your cheat detection is absolutely perfect (Which no cheat detection ever is).

(Indefinite) #253

What CS uses, demos, are as old in FPS as FPS are. In fact, before e-casting and streaming, the best ways to review games played by pros were to get a copy of the demo of the match and then fly around in spectator mode, or hop onto individual players. In fact, recording demos this way also led to a lot of evidence of cheating, before it was a CS:GO overwatch thing.

(fantasticAsteroid) #254

Do we have enough GMs/volunteers to be present monitoring games during the day since the game has servers ranging from Asia, North America, Oceania and Europe?

Also, any advice as to how we can provide evidence - since I don’t have any 3rd party recording software?

(HardCoreGamer44) #255

@MissMurder Anyone That Hacks Don,t Have No Class :stuck_out_tongue:

(SnakekillerX) #256

I see a lot of people talk about how many hackers there are… I don’t know if I’ve just been lucky or not but I have about 140 hours in the game and have only come across this like… MAYBE 2 or 3 times at most. Granted I rarely play competition.

One of those times it was blatantly obvious, no doubt about it cheats. The guy’s name would even change to match the person he killed everytime he got a kill… so it would look like this:

SnakekillerX killed SnakekillerX (me being the one that was killed)
It was impossible to report him as there was no way to even know who to report.

The other two I’d have to say they were hacking but it was a lot less obvious.
Not too bad, obviously room for improvement.

I’m sure the new system in development will help. Good luck with it guys.

(taftari) #257

I have around 100 hours of gameplay, and lattely i was amased by some obvious cheater with a level so high, they havn’t been banned was strange.
Now that i read a little, i understand why. Also, i understood that some way to prevent it was coming.
But, i uncounter so many hackers lately, as i play more, it is taking out some fun for me.
So, i went to youtube, even before googleing, and wow, just wow. I don’t understand how some people can even create steam group to sell hacks o_O .

Doesn’t those kind of game have people mostly paid to hunt cheaters out of the game ? On YT videos they are name, aren’t they clearly define one person ?

(Nail) #258

you’ll have to ask Nexon, xignpoop is their baby

(N8o) #259

Eh, giving power based off level is a bit odd.

(Jostabeere) #260

Maybe you’re just bad and hackusate everyone who kills you? The game a very small amount of hackers in low tiers imo…