Blood on the Rhine testing now

SiliconSlick · 2004-03-19 14:24:10 UTC

Uh… that isn’t a valid Internet address.
It is reserved for private nets by RFC 1918.

You must be behind a NAT router/firewall.
Without forwarding by your router (and your router’s IP),
people won’t be able to connect.

SiliconSlick

SiliconSlick · 2004-03-19 14:38:36 UTC

This map has real issues:

Lots of assets stolen from other games
Redefinition of stock shader
.BSP doesn’t match .PK3 name
20% bloat (excess garbage)

etc.

Fri Mar 19 08:24:47 CST 2004

Files to analyze:

-rw-r–r-- 1 slick ND80serv 9581706 Mar 19 08:24 blood01.pk3

----- PK3 - blood01.pk3 -----
blood01.pk3 - *** Warning: File models/mapobjects/debris/personal1.mdc of size 2324 in blood01.pk3 is in conflict with pak0.pk3 ***
blood01.pk3 - * Minor warning: models/mapobjects/debris/personal1.mdc - same sizes and modification time - EXCESSIVE BLOAT *
blood01.pk3 - *** Warning: File models/mapobjects/debris/personaleffects.jpg of size 33390 in blood01.pk3 is in conflict with pak0.pk3 ***
blood01.pk3 - * Minor warning: models/mapobjects/debris/personaleffects.jpg - same sizes and modification time - EXCESSIVE BLOAT *
blood01.pk3 - *** Warning: File models/mapobjects/plants_sd/grass_dry3.tga of size 262188 in blood01.pk3 is in conflict with pak0.pk3 ***
blood01.pk3 - * Minor warning: models/mapobjects/plants_sd/grass_dry3.tga - different modification date (09-19-03 vs. 04-30-03) but same file - EXCESSIVE
BLOAT *
blood01.pk3 - **** IP Warning: models/mapobjects/skel/skel.tga appears to be stolen from quake3-pak0.pk3
blood01.pk3 - **** IP Warning: models/mapobjects/skull/skull.jpg appears to be stolen from quake3-pak0.pk3
blood01.pk3 - **** IP Warning: models/mapobjects/skull/skull_spirit.tga appears to be stolen from wolfenstein-pak0.pk3
blood01.pk3 - **** IP Warning: models/mapobjects/skull/skull_wall.jpg appears to be stolen from wolfenstein-pak0.pk3
blood01.pk3 - **** IP Warning: models/mapobjects/skull/skull2a.tga appears to be stolen from wolfenstein-pak0.pk3
blood01.pk3 - ** Legacy warning: the name models/mapobjects/skull/Thumbs.db contains uppercase letters which should be avoided **
blood01.pk3 - * Minor warning: nobody wants your thumbnail database “models/mapobjects/skull/Thumbs.db” – EXCESSIVE BLOAT *
blood01.pk3 - ** Image Warning: UNABLE TO LOCATE textures/common/fog_water.tga IN scripts/all1.shader **
blood01.pk3 - ** Image Warning: UNABLE TO LOCATE textures/common/terrain_nonsolid.tga IN scripts/all1.shader **
blood01.pk3 - ** Image Warning: UNABLE TO LOCATE textures/liquids_sd/seawall_ocean.tga IN scripts/all1.shader **
blood01.pk3 - ** Image Warning: UNABLE TO LOCATE textures/sfx/fog_grey1.tga IN scripts/all1.shader **
blood01.pk3 - ** Legacy warning: texture textures/skies/nightsky1.jpg in scripts/all1.shader should use .tga extension (even if .jpg file) **
blood01.pk3 - ** Image Warning: UNABLE TO LOCATE textures/skies/sky_8.tga IN scripts/all1.shader **
blood01.pk3 - **** MAJOR Warning: SHADER scripts/all1.shader REFERENCES NON-EXISTENT IMAGES (see above) ****
blood01.pk3 - ****** FATAL ERROR: scripts/et_entities.def is a deviation from the stock developer version - other maps that use it will either impact it or be impacted by it ******
blood01.pk3 - ** Legacy warning: the name scripts/ET1_ENTITIES.DEF contains uppercase letters which should be avoided **
blood01.pk3 - ****** FATAL ERROR: scripts/shaderlist.txt is a deviation from the stock developer version - other maps that use it will either impact it or be impacted by it ******
blood01.pk3 - *** Warning: File scripts/wood.shader of size 2020 in blood01.pk3 is in conflict with pak0.pk3 ***
blood01.pk3 - ****** FATAL ERROR: FILE scripts/wood.shader IS IN CONFLICT WITH STOCK FILES (size: 2020 vs. 2186) ******
blood01.pk3 - Minor note: textures/wood/wood_m12.tga is textures/wood/wood_m12.jpg in pak0.pk3
blood01.pk3 - ** Legacy warning: the name textures/1944_cherbourg/Thumbs.db contains uppercase letters which should be avoided **
blood01.pk3 - * Minor warning: nobody wants your thumbnail database “textures/1944_cherbourg/Thumbs.db” – EXCESSIVE BLOAT *
blood01.pk3 - **** IP Warning: textures/assault/afloor_m01.jpg appears to be stolen from wolfenstein-pak0.pk3
blood01.pk3 - ** Legacy warning: the name textures/assault/Thumbs.db contains uppercase letters which should be avoided **
blood01.pk3 - * Minor warning: nobody wants your thumbnail database “textures/assault/Thumbs.db” – EXCESSIVE BLOAT *
blood01.pk3 - **** IP Warning: textures/assault_rock/concrete_cammo_m01_rf.jpg appears to be stolen from wolfenstein-mp_pak0.pk3
blood01.pk3 - **** IP Warning: textures/assault_rock/concrete_m01.jpg appears to be stolen from wolfenstein-pak0.pk3
blood01.pk3 - **** IP Warning: textures/assault_rock/ground_c09a.jpg appears to be stolen from wolfenstein-pak0.pk3
blood01.pk3 - ** Legacy warning: the name textures/assault_rock/Thumbs.db contains uppercase letters which should be avoided **
blood01.pk3 - * Minor warning: nobody wants your thumbnail database “textures/assault_rock/Thumbs.db” – EXCESSIVE BLOAT *
blood01.pk3 - ** Legacy warning: the name textures/caen/Thumbs.db contains uppercase letters which should be avoided **
blood01.pk3 - * Minor warning: nobody wants your thumbnail database “textures/caen/Thumbs.db” – EXCESSIVE BLOAT *
blood01.pk3 - **** IP Warning: textures/castle_wall/castle_c22b.jpg appears to be stolen from wolfenstein-pak0.pk3
blood01.pk3 - ** Legacy warning: the name textures/castle_wall/Thumbs.db contains uppercase letters which should be avoided **
blood01.pk3 - * Minor warning: nobody wants your thumbnail database “textures/castle_wall/Thumbs.db” – EXCESSIVE BLOAT *
blood01.pk3 - **** IP Warning: textures/castle_wood/cwood_mo5a.jpg appears to be stolen from wolfenstein-pak0.pk3
blood01.pk3 - **** IP Warning: textures/castle_wood/cwood_mo5c.jpg appears to be stolen from wolfenstein-pak0.pk3
blood01.pk3 - **** IP Warning: textures/castle_wood/cwood_mo5cb.tga appears to be stolen from wolfenstein-mp_pak0.pk3
blood01.pk3 - ** Legacy warning: the name textures/castle_wood/Thumbs.db contains uppercase letters which should be avoided **
blood01.pk3 - * Minor warning: nobody wants your thumbnail database “textures/castle_wood/Thumbs.db” – EXCESSIVE BLOAT *
blood01.pk3 - **** IP Warning: textures/chat/book_c03.jpg appears to be stolen from wolfenstein-pak0.pk3
blood01.pk3 - ** Legacy warning: the name textures/chat/Thumbs.db contains uppercase letters which should be avoided **
blood01.pk3 - * Minor warning: nobody wants your thumbnail database “textures/chat/Thumbs.db” – EXCESSIVE BLOAT *
blood01.pk3 - ** Legacy warning: the name textures/countryside/Thumbs.db contains uppercase letters which should be avoided **
blood01.pk3 - * Minor warning: nobody wants your thumbnail database “textures/countryside/Thumbs.db” – EXCESSIVE BLOAT *
blood01.pk3 - ** Legacy warning: the name textures/draktexs/Thumbs.db contains uppercase letters which should be avoided **
blood01.pk3 - * Minor warning: nobody wants your thumbnail database “textures/draktexs/Thumbs.db” – EXCESSIVE BLOAT *
blood01.pk3 - ** Legacy warning: the name textures/evil_3walls/Thumbs.db contains uppercase letters which should be avoided **
blood01.pk3 - * Minor warning: nobody wants your thumbnail database “textures/evil_3walls/Thumbs.db” – EXCESSIVE BLOAT *
blood01.pk3 - **** IP Warning: textures/liquids/pool3d_3c.jpg appears to be stolen from wolfenstein-pak0.pk3
blood01.pk3 - **** IP Warning: textures/liquids/pool3d_5.jpg appears to be stolen from quake3-pak0.pk3
blood01.pk3 - **** IP Warning: textures/liquids/pool3d_5c.jpg appears to be stolen from wolfenstein-pak0.pk3
blood01.pk3 - **** IP Warning: textures/liquids/pool3d_5e.jpg appears to be stolen from quake3-pak0.pk3
blood01.pk3 - **** IP Warning: textures/liquids/pool3d_6c.jpg appears to be stolen from wolfenstein-pak0.pk3
blood01.pk3 - ** Legacy warning: the name textures/liquids/Thumbs.db contains uppercase letters which should be avoided **
blood01.pk3 - * Minor warning: nobody wants your thumbnail database “textures/liquids/Thumbs.db” – EXCESSIVE BLOAT *
blood01.pk3 - ** Legacy warning: the name textures/max/Covergirls03_512x128.jpg contains uppercase letters which should be avoided **
blood01.pk3 - ** Legacy warning: the name textures/max/Grate13a.jpg contains uppercase letters which should be avoided **
blood01.pk3 - ** Legacy warning: the name textures/max/Painting22a.jpg contains uppercase letters which should be avoided **
blood01.pk3 - ** Legacy warning: the name textures/max/Painting25a.jpg contains uppercase letters which should be avoided **
blood01.pk3 - ** Legacy warning: the name textures/max/Thumbs.db contains uppercase letters which should be avoided **
blood01.pk3 - * Minor warning: nobody wants your thumbnail database “textures/max/Thumbs.db” – EXCESSIVE BLOAT *
blood01.pk3 - ** Legacy warning: the name textures/max/Tool02_256x256.jpg contains uppercase letters which should be avoided **
blood01.pk3 - ** Legacy warning: the name textures/max/Tool03_512x256.jpg contains uppercase letters which should be avoided **
blood01.pk3 - **** IP Warning: textures/metal_misc/ametal_m03a.jpg appears to be stolen from wolfenstein-pak0.pk3
blood01.pk3 - **** IP Warning: textures/metal_misc/diamond_m_02.jpg appears to be stolen from wolfenstein-pak0.pk3
blood01.pk3 - ** Legacy warning: the name textures/metal_misc/Thumbs.db contains uppercase letters which should be avoided **
blood01.pk3 - * Minor warning: nobody wants your thumbnail database “textures/metal_misc/Thumbs.db” – EXCESSIVE BLOAT *
blood01.pk3 - **** IP Warning: textures/miltary_wall/concrete_m05.jpg appears to be stolen from wolfenstein-pak0.pk3
blood01.pk3 - ** Legacy warning: the name textures/miltary_wall/Thumbs.db contains uppercase letters which should be avoided **
blood01.pk3 - * Minor warning: nobody wants your thumbnail database “textures/miltary_wall/Thumbs.db” – EXCESSIVE BLOAT *
blood01.pk3 - **** IP Warning: textures/props/board_m01.jpg appears to be stolen from wolfenstein-mp_pak0.pk3
blood01.pk3 - **** IP Warning: textures/props/controlpanel_c03.jpg appears to be stolen from wolfenstein-pak0.pk3
blood01.pk3 - **** IP Warning: textures/props/flags_temp.tga appears to be stolen from wolfenstein-sp_pak2.pk3
blood01.pk3 - ** Legacy warning: the name textures/props/Thumbs.db contains uppercase letters which should be avoided **
blood01.pk3 - * Minor warning: nobody wants your thumbnail database “textures/props/Thumbs.db” – EXCESSIVE BLOAT *
blood01.pk3 - ** Legacy warning: the name textures/wood/Thumbs.db contains uppercase letters which should be avoided **
blood01.pk3 - * Minor warning: nobody wants your thumbnail database “textures/wood/Thumbs.db” – EXCESSIVE BLOAT *
blood01.pk3 - *** Warning: File textures/wood/wood_m06a.jpg of size 30578 in blood01.pk3 is in conflict with pak0.pk3 ***
blood01.pk3 - * Minor warning: textures/wood/wood_m06a.jpg - same sizes and modification time - EXCESSIVE BLOAT *
blood01.pk3 - ** Legacy warning: the name textures/woodtex/Thumbs.db contains uppercase letters which should be avoided **
blood01.pk3 - * Minor warning: nobody wants your thumbnail database “textures/woodtex/Thumbs.db” – EXCESSIVE BLOAT *
blood01.pk3 - *** Model Warning: Could not locate model models/mapobjects/barrel_sd/barrel_side referenced in maps/all1.bsp ***
blood01.pk3 - *** Model Warning: Could not locate model models/mapobjects/barrel_sd/barrel_top referenced in maps/all1.bsp ***
blood01.pk3 - *** Model Warning: Could not locate model models/mapobjects/miltary_trim/barbwire.md3 referenced in maps/all1.bsp ***
blood01.pk3 - *** Model Warning: Could not locate model models/mapobjects/Skull/skull referenced in maps/all1.bsp ***
blood01.pk3 - *** Model Warning: Could not locate model models/mapobjects/tanks_sd/churchhill_flash.md3 referenced in maps/all1.bsp ***
blood01.pk3 - *** Warning: TOTAL EXCESSIVE BLOAT is 1985824 bytes out of 9601024 (21% BLOAT) ***
blood01.pk3 - **** MAJOR WARNING: BSP doesn’t match PK3 name (very confusing) ****
blood01.pk3 - maps/all1.bsp
blood01.pk3 - **** MAJOR WARNING: contains intellectual property protected by non-ET/Radiant copyrights
blood01.pk3 - SUMMARY: 3 Fatal errors 3 Major warnings 6 Warnings 25 IP Warnings 5 Model warnings 5 Image warnings 26 Legacy warnings
22 Minor warnings 1 Minor notes

SiliconSlick (not even bothering to load it up given all that)

seven_dc · 2004-03-19 14:55:25 UTC

SiliconSlick to the rescue!

Uh… that isn’t a valid Internet address.
It is reserved for private nets by RFC 1918.

I should have known that. /me bangs my head against wall :banghead:

Lots of assets stolen from other games

Redefinition of stock shader

.BSP doesn’t match .PK3 name

20% bloat (excess garbage)

I haven’t seen the map but can someone declare what is stolen?
2) That is bad. Pukedukem you should fix this asap if you do not want people start to bitching at you.

Vaporite or easy vape

Pukedukem · 2004-03-19 20:11:43 UTC

yeah i didnt find out that half my stuff came from other peoples pk3 files the day before i was going to test online. I will try to fix that soon, but im moving and will be offline for a week or two.

sorry
thanks for the replies hope to see more

_AE_HawkeyE · 2004-03-20 00:45:05 UTC

If you can’t bear to see a swastika then I suggest not playing games with the European theatre of WWII, since that was the flag of one of the Axis nations… I think the flag makes it more historically accurate vs. a picture of the RTCW/ET logo, in my opinion that is.

J-Inaria · 2004-03-20 06:26:03 UTC

Needs better lighting.

_AE_HawkeyE · 2004-03-20 07:33:58 UTC

yes well…
A)I don’t believe that that is something that would be taught in most history classes

-and-

B)Being that I am living in the U.S. and therefore as a junior in high school forced to take a U.S. History class, this is not a subject that has come up, as of yet at least. Then again nor did it come up last year in my Contemporary World History class, if you want to call it my fault for being unknowingly ignorant then go ahead but thank you for this invaluable information

-furthermore-

C)I fail to see how Germany, instead of acknowledging their past and what they did to the Jews, thinks that trying to make it seem like that Hitler’s reign never occured would be a beneficial form of prevention. Nor do I see how having to shoot the people bearing the nazi flags/swastikas, as in RTCW Single Player, would be a form of promoting neo-nazism :-?

nUllSkillZ · 2004-03-20 08:59:24 UTC

@theme svastikas:
Svastikas are allowed if they are used in art or education.
Actually computer games are no official art. So they are not allowed in games.

_AE_HawkeyE · 2004-03-20 09:04:06 UTC

thanks for clearin it up skillz, I’m not expert on german law

Pukedukem · 2004-03-20 10:30:11 UTC

how did this topic even start?? no one mentioned swastikas till you said something hawkeye. just BS about my map. please

Fusen · 2004-03-20 14:58:40 UTC

well actually nodgam said

"please stop with putting swastikas in the maps ffs , […] "

Pukedukem · 2004-03-21 23:01:17 UTC

re-release coming tomarrow. With fixed:

double jump on back axis roof will not be possible
NO spawn glitch.
file names will be correct
audio file paths fixed and excess audio removed
little more cover in main field
possible change of dirt to grassy terrain on the main field.

seeya all
Tomarrow

_AE_HawkeyE · 2004-03-22 21:35:33 UTC

maybe because the guy that started talking about swastikas deleted all his posts? Just a guess… sorry

thegnat · 2004-03-22 22:00:36 UTC

The point ist, as nUllSkillz said, that maps with Swastikas in it will never be hosted on a german server, if the admin knows the german law and respects it. It was only an advice by nodgam.
The choice is still yours.

Pukedukem · 2004-03-22 22:37:16 UTC

we had a idea for the main objective to be hitler in a chair. Would have been great, but time restrictions kept that from happening. fixing a spawn glitch now, map should be up tonight.
Didnt fix somethings because im moving in three days. so I only fixed major problems. Hope to be online with a new release in about a week or two.

If your a german server and really want my map i would render you a copy without the flags.

thegnat · 2004-03-22 22:55:10 UTC

No, sorry, I’m not a server.
Also removing the Swastikas from your existing map wouldn’t be that problem, but then there are 2 versions in rotation, depending on the servers the player visited.
If you dont have anything other to “beauty up” your map, then let the Swastikas in and your map probably will never see any german servers.
But thats not my problem. ET never used Swastikas and that was well thought by SD/ID.

Pukedukem · 2004-03-22 23:31:02 UTC

do germans get decent pings on usa servers?

nodgam · 2004-03-22 23:46:44 UTC

<100 msec

Pukedukem · 2004-03-22 23:56:41 UTC

hate to break the news but im not to worried about my swastikas till im working at SD.

seeya on my Map soon

:banghead: :bash:

_AE_HawkeyE · 2004-03-23 00:00:51 UTC

heh, I think the original version with ID was going to have swastikas and realistic German uniforms, looking at some of the team shots they had taken. I’m guessing once SD picked up the multiplayer part to realease for free, they wanted to cater more toward the German populace, which now that I know the reason, I really don’t mind :).

Now lets get back to the topic of the map. I’ve yet to download it yet but that is because I’m on 5k and I only really download final versions