Aura Healing Stations (Suggestion)


(Nail) #21

seems more concerned with someone else’s pod getting the heal xp they thought they should have

silly


(Szakalot) #22

@BloodySin hp station heals at 45hp/sec for others and 40hp/sec for Aura herself


(BloodySin) #23

@Szakalot said:
@BloodySin hp station heals at 45hp/sec for others and 40hp/sec for Aura herself
Actually, according to the official wiki, we’re both wrong and right, unless the information there is outdated: “40 HP/s, 30hp/s medics merc.” Still, the main point was about it stacking - which seemed to be your issue, not how much it heals. All the stacking does is make it so one of the stations is irrelevant, only serving as an already-in-place backup.


(Eox) #24

Moving to mercenary discussions.


(Szakalot) #25

@BloodySin said:

@Szakalot said:
@BloodySin hp station heals at 45hp/sec for others and 40hp/sec for Aura herself
Actually, according to the official wiki, we’re both wrong and right, unless the information there is outdated: “40 HP/s, 30hp/s medics merc.” Still, the main point was about it stacking - which seemed to be your issue, not how much it heals. All the stacking does is make it so one of the stations is irrelevant, only serving as an already-in-place backup.

i dont care what the wiki says. its 45 and 40


(M4st0d0n) #26

@BloodySin said:
The pod heals 30hp/sec if I remember it right. The video shows someone with a huge health pool, not getting hit constantly, staying alive and healed because of how few times he gets hit, but stuck in a small circle if he wants to remain like that. It takes one sticky, a couple grenades in the general area of the pod or two cricket bat heavy strikes to take it down.

From your last post I’m confused if you just have a beef with the pod itself - a fragile, stationary thing that creates a small area of healing as long as you don’t move away from it, creating a tactical advantage that can be exploited - or if you believe the healing stacks - it doesn’t, it works like three people disarming C4 of fixing the EV.

30 HP is more than any rifle bodyshot. You literally just dont have to dodge bullets, even headshots with Timik, MK46. Good Auras will just stand and bodyblock while shooting back. I dont find that tactical. Of course you can shut it down with fire support, grenades or stealth, I know. Everything is shut down by explosive spam in this game. I dont find that tactical neither. Yet from my Ranked experience the pod camping problem is far less prevalent than in pubs. So is it OP? Yeah, kind of, could be toned down a bit IMO. Is it the most unbalanced thing ingame now, does it make it unplayable? Nope quite not.

Back on topics, what you can see also in the video is the stupid amount of XP the Aura is making at the end of the clip. 1100+ XP for doing literally nothing but having once placed a camping pod. This is why people now ask for pods to be unstackable. Not because it’s useless and healing dont stack. XD


(Szakalot) #27

@M4st0d0n even pistols have+100DPS, so no aura cant just sit there and tank damage. put headshots ontop of that and any weapon can outDPS station heal


(M4st0d0n) #28

@Szakalot said:
@M4st0d0n even pistols have+100DPS, so no aura cant just sit there and tank damage. put headshots ontop of that and any weapon can outDPS station heal

You have to choose between headshots on Aura or aiming at the pod… But hey, passive healing on defense and the new passive shields mechanics sure just worked wonders on maps that were already favoring defense… And Aura is so well balanced it’s absolutely not mandatory to bring her on those.


(GatoCommodore) #29

@M4st0d0n said:

@Szakalot said:
@M4st0d0n even pistols have+100DPS, so no aura cant just sit there and tank damage. put headshots ontop of that and any weapon can outDPS station heal

You have to choose between headshots on Aura or aiming at the pod… But hey, passive healing on defense and the new passive shields mechanics sure just worked wonders on maps that were already favoring defense… And Aura is so well balanced it’s absolutely not mandatory to bring her on those.

what are your comments on phoenix 100hp insta-heal


(GatoCommodore) #30

@M4st0d0n said:

@Szakalot said:
@M4st0d0n even pistols have+100DPS, so no aura cant just sit there and tank damage. put headshots ontop of that and any weapon can outDPS station heal

You have to choose between headshots on Aura or aiming at the pod… But hey, passive healing on defense and the new passive shields mechanics sure just worked wonders on maps that were already favoring defense… And Aura is so well balanced it’s absolutely not mandatory to bring her on those.

what are your comments on phoenix 100hp insta-heal


(M4st0d0n) #31

@GatoCommodore said:

@M4st0d0n said:

@Szakalot said:
@M4st0d0n even pistols have+100DPS, so no aura cant just sit there and tank damage. put headshots ontop of that and any weapon can outDPS station heal

You have to choose between headshots on Aura or aiming at the pod… But hey, passive healing on defense and the new passive shields mechanics sure just worked wonders on maps that were already favoring defense… And Aura is so well balanced it’s absolutely not mandatory to bring her on those.

what are your comments on phoenix 100hp insta-heal

I think DirtyBomb is filled with over the top crazy broken abilities. I also think abilities should be a bit more powerful when they require a bit more user inputs. I totally get why Aura is a strong merc. People should start playing with strong mercs needing less inputs. And then eventually pick other mercs and evolve to a more complex playstyle that is a bit more rewarding. And by more complex, I mean something with movement and aiming, not a competition on who has the more healing reach on the camping spot.


(GatoCommodore) #32

@M4st0d0n said:

@GatoCommodore said:

@M4st0d0n said:

@Szakalot said:
@M4st0d0n even pistols have+100DPS, so no aura cant just sit there and tank damage. put headshots ontop of that and any weapon can outDPS station heal

You have to choose between headshots on Aura or aiming at the pod… But hey, passive healing on defense and the new passive shields mechanics sure just worked wonders on maps that were already favoring defense… And Aura is so well balanced it’s absolutely not mandatory to bring her on those.

what are your comments on phoenix 100hp insta-heal

I think DirtyBomb is filled with over the top crazy broken abilities. I also think abilities should be a bit more powerful when they require a bit more user inputs. I totally get why Aura is a strong merc. People should start playing with strong mercs needing less inputs. And then eventually pick other mercs and evolve to a more complex playstyle that is a bit more rewarding. And by more complex, I mean something with movement and aiming, not a competition on who has the more healing reach on the camping spot.

aura is newbie friendly


(Szakalot) #33

imo aura is not powerful because of the heal rate but the heal potential. aura can easily outlast any other medics heal and thus win the eventual battle of attrition. in 5v5 ranked having aura allows your team to just take potshots at the enemy, drain their medics and basically outheal them.

would be interesting if hp station had an ‘energy bar’ that would eventually get depleted, perhaps dropping heal rate by e.g. 50%. Aura would need to put a new station down to get fresh energy, thus removing some of the cooldown flexibility we have now.


(M4st0d0n) #34

Yeah. Or allow the enemy to heal, like any other pack, we’ll see how they handle balance tweaks in august or so they said.


(GatoCommodore) #35

@M4st0d0n said:
Yeah. Or allow the enemy to heal, like any other pack, we’ll see how they handle balance tweaks in august or so they said.

i bet my 3 dankest memes they wont touch aura


(watsyurdeal) #36

@GatoCommodore said:
i bet my 3 dankest memes they wont touch aura

I expect 3 dank memes the day of, or seppuku

Also off topic, but I think for me, one thing that I really dislike about her station is that it immediately can be placed after it is destroyed. It’d be nice if after it is destroyed there is a cooldown so Aura is actually losing the station, offering room for her to be punished for bad placement.

This can be combined with a change to how it recharges normally, maybe drastically reducing that time. So it can be placed elsewhere in the event Aura can’t reach her station because the team has pushed forward.


(Szakalot) #37

@M4st0d0n this was the case once, you get really silly fights where nobody ever dies, and it only takes reaching the station to render the aura useless (cause now everyone gets heals except aura has lowest hp in game)


(M4st0d0n) #38

@Szakalot said:
@M4st0d0n this was the case once, you get really silly fights where nobody ever dies, and it only takes reaching the station to render the aura useless (cause now everyone gets heals except aura has lowest hp in game)

Ah I missed that part. Sounds like a fun way to balance shotguns. XD


(M4st0d0n) #39

@GatoCommodore said:

@M4st0d0n said:
Yeah. Or allow the enemy to heal, like any other pack, we’ll see how they handle balance tweaks in august or so they said.

i bet my 3 dankest memes they wont touch aura

It’s time. Show me the stuff.

My body’s ready.


(TitaniumRapture) #40

@GatoCommodore said:
wow…
just wow…

@stayfreshshoe SHOOOOEEEEEEE

@BloodySin said:
Or you can do what I do (in case they don’t move theirs when they see you had one down already, which seems to happen most of the time), pick up your station, check how your team is advancing, and set it down again in another position they are holding and healing would be helpful. If the team is cornered or trapped, either pick yours up to be able to put it down right away when the other gets bombed or set yours just outside the reach of the other one, so there little to no overlap and your team will have double the area to move around while being healed.

Sure, you might get less xp from setting yours in a secondary position, but you will be helping your team much more than with worry about “location ownership.” Which one is more important?

it would be very helpful if you dont need to relocate just because a newbie stacking a location

You really expect shoe to respond on OFFICIAL forum? lol