Another Round of Brink Reviews!

[murtle52]

[QUOTE=panickin;315245]To put it simply, a METASCORE is a weighted average of reviews from top critics and publications for a given movie, TV show, video game, or album --taken from their description on their website

so basically they compile a bunch of the guys that get paid to give games scores together and give you a score from it[/QUOTE]

there are 2 scores from meta critic, the one you see on the steam store page and a second one on the actual metacritic page itself which is based on player reviews and given an overall score , but you’d know this if you even went on the front page of it.

again people who comment and prove that they obviously haven’t done any homework…

tsk tsk tsk

[peteXnasty]

I think the one guy who’s job it is to you know…handle PR has the time to compile a few reviews and will pass along patch info when they have info to pass along

All there is now is “they are working on it”

[RadBrad31]

[QUOTE=murtle52;315247]do you even know what i’m talking about by “player based review system” obviously not

don’t start slinging mud if you don’t even know what i’m talking about

ever heard of metacritic retard?[/QUOTE]

I’m not slinging mud. I’m saying that what I said is basically a player review dumbed down. You either like it, or you don’t. It’s a very love-hate thing with this game, which you’ll see from many “professional” reviews as well. X-play gave it a 2/5. And I respect their opinion a lot, yet I enjoy the game.

I use metacritic. Do I read the player reviews? Not really. Most of them are flametards who realize the game isn’t for them, but then feel the need to bash it with a rock over and over. Some people disliked Heavy Rain because it wasn’t a FPS COD game. Do I need to read their review to tell myself what to think about it? Nope.

I disagree with your point of saying professional reviews do not matter. Some games they are misleading I think, but that can be said about any game. If you like player reviews better, good for you, enjoy it. I don’t think it’s fair for someone to say some reviews are worthless and others should ONLY be listened to.

[murtle52]

me, I’m cutting him a tiny bit of slack cause he’s on PC and it doesn’t work, but he’s gone from being reasonable in his intial postings to be a bit of a rager, seems only an SD employee patting him on the head and telling him his problem is being personally looked into will now satisfy him, too bad, he’s got a nice rig

my rig is actually the exact set up they called for in recommended spec on store page
yeah i am raging a bit i’ll concede to that but do you see why?

ive done trouble ticket with bethesda (8 days ago)
ive asked for help from s/d
ive been on tech help forum asking for help

shot down everywhere

so yeah its turned into a rage

can ya blame me?

[farnsworth]

[QUOTE=murtle52;315223]blablabla…

metacritic ,which is the GAMERS review ,( not a company being paid for advertising by SD and therefore unable to give a unbiased review) ,was the best score ive seen of 6/10 and that was the BEST player review ive seen , they only get worse from there…

more blablabla
look for your own reviews for the truth[/QUOTE]

god, are you still here, pestering every single thread you find with your constant crying? We get it, the game doesn’t work for you and you’re pissed. get over it already, you’re making a fool of yourself.

And just to proof you wrong i went to metacritics and took a look at the user-reviews, i even read the first ten red ones i found. they were all like “meh this game is not like cod/css so it’s crap” or some other disappointment like “why can’t i see myself while doing smart-moves”, which made them invalid in my eyes because if these people would’ve researched at least a little before they bought the game, they would’ve known its not for them and maybe spared the world their utter useless opinions.

and finally this:

Positive:
158 out of 238
Mixed:
18 out of 238
Negative:
62 out of 238

where mixed and negative are a rating of six and below, so you’re not only a cry-baby, you’re a liar too. get lost please.

[murtle52]

[QUOTE=RadBrad31;315252]I’m not slinging mud. I’m saying that what I said is basically a player review dumbed down. You either like it, or you don’t. It’s a very love-hate thing with this game, which you’ll see from many “professional” reviews as well. X-play gave it a 2/5. And I respect their opinion a lot, yet I enjoy the game.

I use metacritic. Do I read the player reviews? Not really. Most of them are flametards who realize the game isn’t for them, but then feel the need to bash it with a rock over and over. Some people disliked Heavy Rain because it wasn’t a FPS COD game. Do I need to read their review to tell myself what to think about it? Nope.

I disagree with your point of saying professional reviews do not matter. Some games they are misleading I think, but that can be said about any game. If you like player reviews better, good for you, enjoy it. I don’t think it’s fair for someone to say some reviews are worthless and others should ONLY be listened to.[/QUOTE]

corporate reviews ARE worthless, if the entity in question already recieves millions in ad revenue from the company that produces the very game that they will review, whats the point?

oh and morgan webbs review that 2/5 is so dumb it would have been considered flame bait by a troller if it was in a forum.

she didn’t even play the game in mp

funny how this got a horrible review by her in the same week that the witcher 2 launched and g4 had been running ads non-stop for it (i never saw one on that channel for brink)

thanks for proving my argument for me

[RadBrad31]

[QUOTE=murtle52;315258]corporate reviews ARE worthless, if the entity in question already recieves millions in ad revenue from the company that produces the very game that they will review, whats the point?

oh and morgan webbs review that 2/5 is so dumb it would have been considered flame bait by a troller if it was in a forum.

she didn’t even play the game in mp

funny how this got a horrible review by her in the same week that the witcher 2 launched and g4 had been running ads non-stop for it (i never saw one on that channel for brink)

thanks for proving my argument for me[/QUOTE]

I simply said not all reviews are correct, player or corporation based. Or, they are correct, to that reviewer. In the end, it’s all in the customer’s opinion. By your argument, that Brink is a bad game, you actually agree with the 2/5 review score by X-play. Isn’t that correct?

[murtle52]

[QUOTE=farnsworth;315254]god, are you still here, pestering every single thread you find with your constant crying? We get it, the game doesn’t work for you and you’re pissed. get over it already, you’re making a fool of yourself.

And just to proof you wrong i went to metacritics and took a look at the user-reviews, i even read the first ten red ones i found. they were all like “meh this game is not like cod/css so it’s crap” or some other disappointment like “why can’t i see myself while doing smart-moves”, which made them invalid in my eyes because if these people would’ve researched at least a little before they bought the game, they would’ve known its not for them and maybe spared the world their utter useless opinions.

and finally this:

Positive:
101 out of 152
Mixed:
12 out of 152
Negative:
39 out of 152

where mixed and negative are a rating of six and below, so you’re not only a cry-baby, you’re a liar too. get lost please.[/QUOTE]

if i’m a liar then what is that?

Brink

oh it came up from a 6 to a 6.7 oooooh

my point is look at an overall score based by PLAYERS and not corporations

oh and i love the gameplay of brink don’t get me wrong (playing it at friends)

but when 40% of steam users can’t even play it … well guess im not the only one

shall i get that page for you to or would you like to call me a liar again only to have me prove you wrong… again

[murtle52]

I simply said not all reviews are correct, player or corporation based. Or, they are correct, to that reviewer. In the end, it’s all in the customer’s opinion. By your argument, that Brink is a bad game, you actually agree with the 2/5 review score by X-play. Isn’t that correct?

i think bottom line

brilliant game

WORSE RELEASE EVER

if you want my review there it is

never said it was a bad game i just have issues with an admitted s.d employee posting on a public forum about what great reviews the game is getting (according to him) when the reality is utterly false

and offered the suggestion of using player based reviews rather than corporate ones (for reasons so obvious i shouldn’t have to state them again)

if morgans review had been based on overall quality at release i would have agreed but she’s basing it only on gameplay (which is amazing) and only sp gameplay at that! (pro reviewer indeed)

gameplay for me would be 8 even 9 out of 10

but alas the horrible glitches affecting a HUUUUGE portion of people who bought this game would make me agree with an overall 2/5 rating that she gave (although as ive stated not for the reasons she gave)

my whole point again is

DON’T TRUST CORPORATE REVIEWERS FOR REASONS SO APPARENT YOU SHOULD BE BEATEN TO DEATH IF THIS ELUDES YOU!

[RadBrad31]

Um, he’s not lying. He’s showcasing the great reviews that are out there. Name one company that showcases their poor reviews, video game industry or otherwise.

[farnsworth]

by telling that the best player score you were seeing was a 6, you were implying that no one gave the game a better ranking than a 6, which is simply not true.

and the wast majority of the red reviews are useless ramblings of kids who have no idea what they’re talking about, which makes them invalid for me and everyone who actually reads them and not just relies on some magical metascore which supposedly is the mother of all knowledge about videogames.

Granted, there are a lot of fanboy 10-star ratings there as well and they are just as useless as their opposites, that’s why i tend to actually read the things and make up my own mind and not just rely on some stupid number, be it from the gamers themselves or some “journalists”.

[murtle52]

[QUOTE=farnsworth;315272]by telling that the best player score you were seeing was a 6, you were implying that no one gave the game a better ranking than a 6, which is simply not true.

and the wast majority of the red reviews are useless ramblings of kids who have no idea what they’re talking about, which makes them invalid for me and everyone who actually reads them and not just relies on some magical metascore which supposedly is the mother of all knowledge about videogames.

Granted, there are a lot of fanboy 10-star ratings there as well and they are just as useless as their opposites, that’s why i tend to actually read the things and make up my own mind and not just rely on some stupid number, be it from the gamers themselves or some “journalists”.[/QUOTE]

i couldn’t agree more

and i only said that the best PLAYER review that ONLY I have seen was this score , not implying anything at all…thats a fact

listen people if i had to review this game on a sweet system provided me buy S/D and it ran smoothly etc i probably would have given this game a 10 out of 10…were missing the point here

if you can’t afford to drop 50$ to “make up your own mind” as you put it
then chances are if your like me you want to research a little before buying

my mistake was this was the first preorder ive ever bought (with recommended specs) and i’m sorry now that i did that

(waiting for refund on a non playable game)

which is why you should read player reviews over corporate gamer reviews which always serve an agenda

[RadBrad31]

Which player review told you that your PC wouldn’t run the game properly? You said that’s the reason you should read player reviews, like it would’ve shined the light that your PC couldn’t handle the game?

[murtle52]

Which player review told you that your PC wouldn’t run the game properly? You said that’s the reason you should read player reviews, like it would’ve shined the light that your PC couldn’t handle the game?

IF I HAD READ THE PLAYER REVIEWS ON THIS SITE (geeze didn’t have to go far or think hard there) by players i would have known about tech issues and would have held off buying, as i said it was my first pre-order and i wont be making that mistake again

i guess i was stupid to trust the steam store page where my computer exactly meets the specs under SD’s recommendations…what was i thinking to think this game would actually work for me

if your trying to flame me your doing a horrible job ROFL

go find another thread to troll loser

[murtle52]

Um, he’s not lying. He’s showcasing the great reviews that are out there. Name one company that showcases their poor reviews, video game industry or otherwise.

never said he was lying (where are you getting this stuff?)

i said it’s not smart to trust reviews posted by the PR director of the very company SELLING THE GAME

stay with me here buddy, i know this is alot to read and can be hard to follow but try to think before you post ok

[RadBrad31]

never said it was a bad game i just have issues with an admitted s.d employee posting on a public forum about what great reviews the game is getting (according to him) when the reality is utterly false

You’re not lying, but you say that an employee is posting on a public forum about the great reviews when the “reality” is utterly false.

Now, excuse me for being a simpleton and not understanding this post. When you say “So-and-so said this, but the reality is utterly false”, it sounds like to me that you’re saying So-and-so is lying.

You say it’s not smart to trust the PR of a company posting good reviews of their company’s product. Isn’t that common sense? Their job relies on them spreading good PR about the product. They try to put as much positive about their product in the limelight to get it good PR. If it doesn’t get good PR, they get blamed if they aren’t doing their job. Which is highlighting the good of the product to the best they can. I think most people can use their heads and know to take it with a grain of salt.

And, everyone was having tech issues with the game. You don’t need to read forums or reviews for that, SD admitted it and came out with a public announcement. They, from what I’ve seen since then, have solved them from what I’ve seen the past couple days. I use a console, so I can’t comment on your PC platform or what your problem is. But a review isn’t necessary to see there are bugs, that can be seen other places.

Being a PC user, you should know that even if your PC squeezes by the recommendations list it still may not work. Why? Because there are so many variables when it comes to PC gaming. And not just the hardware. There’s malware, Norton (the ultimate CPU killer imo), college networks, bittorrents. So many uncontrollable variables, but I know you’re aware of that, you’re much smarter than I am (I’ll pad your ego for you, there you are).

In all seriousness, I’m not trolling. And not flaming. I’m questioning your posts with constructive criticism. I’m not cursing, I’m not name calling. I’m not saying you’re a loser, troll, or an idiot. I’m objecting your post. This is a forum. That’s what people do on forums. Speak their opinion, see other people’s opinions, and have a discussion about said opinions and/or points. If you don’t want to discuss and just want what you say to be gospel, then I’ll bow out and you can have this thread all to yourself! For real, I won’t mind.

[Shotgun_Surgeon]

[QUOTE=murtle52;315237]not what i said

search for only PLAYER based reviews like metacritic

this is the age of the interwebs man

i don’t need to rely on magazine , tv shows and corporate websites to tell me how great a game is that they are already taking money to advertise for

why not ask the people who actually dolled out 50$ for it and aren’t paid by the video game industry

taking reviews from the admitted sd employee is just retarded[/QUOTE]

No, that makes no sense. I think that people who are unsure should rent the game and try it out for themselves. A person might be the kind of player that loves teamwork and then reads another person’s review (who doesn’t like teamwork and would thinks killstreaks are the best features in a videogame) who says it sucks.

And when it comes to company vs average person reviews… the company is much more reliable than the average person to be less biased. Not saying that companies can’t be biased… but your average player is pretty ignorant, not to mention the average player is also a 15 year old kid who doesn’t even know what it means to be unbiased.

[murtle52]

[QUOTE=RadBrad31;315298]You’re not lying, but you say that an employee is posting on a public forum about the great reviews when the “reality” is utterly false.

Now, excuse me for being a simpleton and not understanding this post. When you say “So-and-so said this, but the reality is utterly false”, it sounds like to me that you’re saying So-and-so is lying…[/QUOTE] is your only defense inferring things that nobody actually said?

You say it’s not smart to trust the PR of a company posting good reviews of their company’s product. Isn’t that common sense? Their job relies on them spreading good PR about the product. They try to put as much positive about their product in the limelight to get it good PR. If it doesn’t get good PR, they get blamed if they aren’t doing their job. Which is highlighting the good of the product to the best they can. I think most people can use their heads and know to take it with a grain of salt.

duuuuh

And, everyone was having tech issues with the game. You don’t need to read forums or reviews for that, SD admitted it and came out with a public announcement. They, from what I’ve seen since then, have solved them from what I’ve seen the past couple days. I use a console, so I can’t comment on your PC platform or what your problem is. But a review isn’t necessary to see there are bugs, that can be seen other places.

OMG YOU THINK S/D HAS SOLVED THIS?? ROFL …HAVE YOU EVEN BEEN READING THESE FORUMS?

oh and paul wedgewood making a press release a day after telling people to update their drivers is insulting to pc gamers

Being a PC user, you should know that even if your PC squeezes by the recommendations list it still may not work. Why? Because there are so many variables when it comes to PC gaming. And not just the hardware. There’s malware, Norton (the ultimate CPU killer imo), college networks, bittorrents. So many uncontrollable variables, but I know you’re aware of that, you’re much smarter than I am (I’ll pad your ego for you, there you are)…

just so you know my pc is the exact specs for this game,
and if 40% of steam users can’t play the game(go check steam yourself) thats not variables of pc configs, or norton, thats a BAD RELEASE .

if you use a console tell me hows the online play going? s/d main issue right now i hear is correcting crippling lag for 360 users (almost no-ones playing apparently)

and statement like “I’ll pad your ego for you, there you are”
followed by
“In all seriousness, I’m not trolling. And not flaming.”
kind of make you lose all credibility

In all seriousness, I’m not trolling. And not flaming. I’m questioning your posts with constructive criticism. I’m not cursing, I’m not name calling. I’m not saying you’re a loser, troll, or an idiot. I’m objecting your post. This is a forum. That’s what people do on forums. Speak their opinion, see other people’s opinions, and have a discussion about said opinions and/or points. If you don’t want to discuss and just want what you say to be gospel, then I’ll bow out and you can have this thread all to yourself! For real, I won’t mind.

and all of a sudden your the champion of free speech or something?..lol
at this point being as how your just spewing verbal diarreah and not actually engaging anyone with any actual discourse i will take you up on that offer

so if you come back to continue troll again after making that offer, then you are totally a fibber!

[murtle52]

[QUOTE=Shotgun Surgeon;315306]No, that makes no sense. I think that people who are unsure should rent the game and try it out for themselves. A person might be the kind of player that loves teamwork and then reads another person’s review (who doesn’t like teamwork and would thinks killstreaks are the best features in a videogame) who says it sucks.

And when it comes to company vs average person reviews… the company is much more reliable than the average person to be less biased. Not saying that companies can’t be biased… but your average player is pretty ignorant, not to mention the average player is also a 15 year old kid who doesn’t even know what it means to be unbiased.[/QUOTE]

so taking reviews suggested to you by the pr director of the company releasing the game is smart?

have fun making all those wise consumer decisions

oh and if its been proven that the average age of a video gamer is 35
then it must be that every review is by a 15 year old kid
that just makes sense to me!

your much better off trusting reviews by companies that are paid millions by the very companies they are reviewing (its called advertising revenue)

unfortunatley ive never seen one place that "rents " pc games and i like to do a little research before dropping 50$ on a game just because the company releasing it said “buy it , it’s awesome 5 out of 5” @_@

but your system is much better than mine

[GhibliMehow]

may not be professional but I did my own review of Brink - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BmcILoeweEU

check er out!