25th of March - Long awaited Merc?

(Mc1412013) #41

Aimee has third eye cam and is a female version of vassilli

(SaulWolfden) #42

Let’s hope their reworking of Aimee makes her a bit more than just Vassili with breasts. At least one different primary would do wonders for that.

(jollyRacer) #43

I believe the majority understands that even in theory, the 3rd eye cam is a useless mechanic as compared to the Heartbeat sensor right? It’s probably one of the reasons why she was removed in Alpha and I strongly hope that it will not remain to be her ability.

(Mc1412013) #44

IN the right spot and right conditions I think it might give an advantage if the person has a microphone and is calling locations in real time so say a rhino knows when to review up mini gun to strike In A choke point with minimal Alert time. Providing it doesn’t Alert the enemy like redeye ir or heart beat sensor does

(blonk) #45

I said in another thread that I think given the recent changes to how the objective progress is displayed and that unless someone has line of sight on the objective you can’t see the progress, this camera may have a use. Depends a lot on how SD want to implement it, but I could see a camera stuck above the EV on bridge being very useful for the defenders. You could argue that Vasilly’s motion sensor can kinda achieve the same thing, but you’d still need to be looking at the EV to notice.

(jollyRacer) #46

@blonk Thank you for that very good point blonk, it’s a great observation. However, just imagine if you’re the one looking through the camera while someone is defusing - you’re actually not making use of the limited time given to you for the defuse.

Also, if you placed like 3 cameras around the map, you’ll be using most of your time looking through them and not helping your team with actual backup and kills.

Overall, I still feel that the 3rd eye camera is too clunky to be used in this fast-paced game.

(Jostabeere) #47

IN the right spot and right conditions I think it might give an advantage if the person has a microphone and is calling locations in real time so say a rhino knows when to review up mini gun to strike In A choke point with minimal Alert time. Providing it doesn’t Alert the enemy like redeye ir or heart beat sensor does[/quote]

Which means she has to look into the camera and can’t fight. Which makes her more useless than Vassili. He can shoot back when spotting enemies.

(Dufayne) #48

To note, the right person communicating enemy positions can make all the difference, even if they don’t contribute as much. I recon scout as Aura for this very purpose and in the games where the team listens, the joke is that the Mic is OP.
For Aimee, her ability is make or break based on its implementation. If they have it where we need to swap views, that will be a turnoff as it constantly switches player focus and sounds like extra managing compared to red eye or Vassili.
However, if the view was displayed as a small screen in let’s say…the bottom left corner, that would allow Aimee to fluidly take advantage of her ability while on the go. Looking down sight yet still seeing third eye that way sounds pretty nifty.

(BlazinFox) #49

IN the right spot and right conditions I think it might give an advantage if the person has a microphone and is calling locations in real time so say a rhino knows when to review up mini gun to strike In A choke point with minimal Alert time. Providing it doesn’t Alert the enemy like redeye ir or heart beat sensor does[/quote]

Which means she has to look into the camera and can’t fight. Which makes her more useless than Vassili. He can shoot back when spotting enemies.
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To be fair she has a screen on her right arm. Maybe she can switch the camera on and it appears in one of the corners of the screen, and turn it off when she needs to.

(MilkyBear) #50

Either Aimee or Turtle, next update will upset a lot of people for sure.

(RedBeard) #51

Oh, does that mean that a stronger core game is more important than a silly merc. No FUCKING SHIT!!!

(jollyRacer) #52

@Dufayne @becomingHumdinger Someone actually mentioned that idea to the devs before in a thread but whether or not they’ll implement it is another thing.

Then again, although this idea is much better, it still pales compared to the heartbeat sensor as a spotting device. While you’re playing, you’ll have to pay attention to what’s infront of you and shifting your focus to your small screen (which probably won’t mark enemies if they’re spotted like how the heartbeat sensor does.)

For the HBS, you just have to throw the thing and it marks multiple enemies. Once they’re marked, you can then focus to get a bullet off according to where the Red Dot is.

For Aimee, she has to look at the screen, remember the area - then shift towards the place based on muscle memory to line up her shot. In other words, the “Markings” of the HBS still outshines a camera - whether its a small screen below.

A good effort to reduce its disadvantages but it is still a bad overall ability due to the existence of the HBS.

(Jesus) #53

I dont get the “WE ABSOLUTELY NEED AN ENGINEER IN THE ROSTER” reasoning, no we fucking dont.

(DirtyHarrier) #54

There are four medics, four soldiers and so on so forth. It’s right in the game files if you want to check. Turtle was supposed to be the 4th engineer, so in my opinion, we do.

(jollyRacer) #55

@Jesus Hey buddy, I see that you’re waiting impatiently for Aimee like I am too :slight_smile:

The majority of players doesn’t like / can’t use a sniper properly therefore an Engineer is preferred.

(jollyRacer) #56

@DirtyHarrier

Engineers - Proxy, Bushwhacker, Fletcher ( 3 )
Assault - Fragger, Stoker, Nader, Thunder, Skyhammer, Kira, Arty, Rhino ( 8 )
Recon - Vasilli, Red-eye, Phantom ( 3 )
Medics - Phoenix, Aura, Sparks, Sawbonez ( 4 )

13 males - 5 Females
Total 18.

Smg Users - Proxy, Bushwhacker, Fletcher, Nader, Phantom, Phoenix, Aura, Sawbonez, Sparks ( 9 )

Shotgun Users - Proxy, Fletcher, Rhino, Aura ( 4 )

Assault Rifle Users - Fragger, Stoker, Skyhammer, Kira, Arty, Thunder ( 6 )

Machine Gun Users - Thunder, Fragger, Rhino ( 3 )

Sniper Users - Vasilli, Red-eye ( 2 ) - *Sparks is a special snowflake.

We needs more snipers and more female mercs. So Aimee.

(DirtyHarrier) #57

That’s not how it is, have a look in the game files. It’s “Assault, Soldier, Engineer, Medic, CovertOps” and something else

(Draco) #58

following what @DirtyHarrier said, in the game files the mercs are divided in Covert Ops, Engineer, Field Ops, Medic and Soldier. You can check in the Dirty Bomb\ShooterGame\Content\WebAssets\images\character-portraits folder, and each portrait of the mercs are distributed in those categories.

Covert Ops:

  • Vassili (A_CovertOps_01)
  • Aimee (A_CovertOps_02) Not relased yet
  • Phantom (A_CovertOps_03)
  • Redeye (A_CovertOps_04)

Engineer:

  • Proxy (A_Engineer_01)
  • Bushwhacker (A_Engineer_02)
  • Fletcher (A_Engineer_03)
  • Turtle (A_Engineer_04) Not relased yet

Field Ops:

  • Skyhammer (A_FieldOps_01)
  • Arty (A_FieldOps_02)
  • Stoker (A_FieldOps_03)
  • Kira (A_FieldOps_04)

Medic:

  • Sawbonez (A_Medic_01)
  • Aura (A_Medic_02)
  • Phoenix (A_Medic_03)
  • Sparks (A_Medic_04)

Soldier:

  • Fragger (A_Soldier_01)
  • Thunder (A_Soldier_02)
  • Nader (A_Soldier_03)
  • Rhino (A_Soldier_04)

In this case, its equally possible that Aimee or Turtle is relased in the next update since covert ops and engineer categories have 3 mercs now, that’s what i think

(Dufayne) #59

@jollyRacer I agree with the heartbeat sensor overall being preferable. Having a highlight over the enemy for all to see is great, which makes the camera moreso oriented towards verbal communication, which sadly appears neglected in games.
What ‘could’ happen is that the HBS highlighting is implemented based on the camera visibility. For example, whereas the HBS can read with a radius and through walls, the camera can read at a further distance but within a specific direction. Thus it would sacrifice general information via overall penetrating radius in exchange for precise (visual and highlighted) information within a specific and maybe collision defined sector.
One thing for sure though is that the camera will speak for SD’s creativity given the bar HBS has set.

(Mrarauzz) #60

@Jesus people want an engineer to make the rotations less stale. 2 extra weeks before people moan about free proxies and mines.